On Fri, 2017-09-01 at 19:31 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Of course, I agree absolutely.
But on the other hand, you can not also demand users to do the packaging themselves. It doesn't work that way, either.
Well, I see a small difference: *YOU* don't take care of packaging / finding packagers for the stuff you want *I* don't miss the package you wish to have present Who of us two is now in the need to take action? Naturally, the one that has his needs not yet met, right? Really, the concept is simple: if you expect something to be done, you have to do it (yourself or by motivating somebody to step up to do it) - I am not DEMANDING any packages to be done (the ones I care for and I need, I package myself or get packaged by somebody else). See the small, yet subtle difference? nobody is demanding from a user to package stuff - but nobody can expect things to magically appear without anybody doing the work. So, what I'm trying to do it motivate you / guide you / empower you to get the things in openSUSE the way you wish them to be. If you as a user want to 'lean back and demand your wishes be fullfilled' - you will need to hire people to do the work (can be hiring people explicitly for you or via supported offerings, where you in the end, again, delegate the work to somebody else, possibly in exchange for money). That's the way the world spins, my friend. Cheers, Dominique