Simon Lees composed on 2016-03-29 08:48 (UTC-1030):
On a clean install I did last week I discovered enlightenment had no sound, this was due to the missing pulseaudio-module-x11. Currently the Gnome, Mate and KDE patterns all recommend pulseaudio-module-x11 (along with several other modules) which leads me to the question is it possible to have working audio on a desktop out of the box without the pulseaudio-module-x11 package on any desktop, if not I am proposing that we move the recommends on PulseAudio into the x11 or x11_opt package (I'm open to either) if some other desktops don't require this package for audio i'm happy to add the recommends to the enlightenment pattern.
This issue is currently being tracked in boo#972912 https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=972912
Over the past 5 months or so, I've recorded installed sound-related packages[1] on 58 13.1, 13.2, 42.1 and TW installations here. 58 have KDE3, TDE, KDE4 and/or K5 as DE. One additionally has Enlightenment, but since its menu was completely illegible, I didn't try to use it except to exit the session, so didn't test its sound or record its sound packages. On only a single one of the 58 is pulseaudio-module-x11 installed. It was not required to make system sounds, yast2 test sound, aplay test sound or Youtube sounds in Firefox on any of those that have working sound (most do). Most on which I never got sound to work were either 13.2, or TDE on 42.1[2]. Whether it is actually required to make sounds on the exception, TDE on 13.1, I have no idea. Making sound work in Linux is probably the most vexing of routinely encountered problems. YaST makes it easier than elsewhere, but far from bulletproof. https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Audio_troubleshooting is probably worse than useless, good only for adding confusion to a confusing topic. [1] rpm -qa | sort | egrep 'alsa|arts|imedia|kspac|libasou|mix|pavuc|phono|pulse' [2] http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2612 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org