-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2017-03-09 10:58, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Carlos, the "problem" with checkinstall is that it is a beginner's tool. IMO it's natural that people to outgrow it and then lose interest. checkinstall wasn't dropped in order to force anyone into OBS. The delete message rather indicates that it was unmaintained both on opensuse as well as upstream side. It probably didn't build anymore.
Yes, I am aware that it is a beginners tool. I'm not a pro.
It is a beginner's tool because it only tracks the actual installation. It doesn't help to make the compilation reproducible. As soon as one has to update a package regularly, that's exactly what's needed though. One year later nobody remembers what configure switches were used originally. So that's where spec files and rpmbuild help with. Easy to produce updated packages that way.
Finally, as soon as one has to maintain several packages, that probably even depend on each other or need to be built for different distros, OBS comes into play. Clean package builds, fully automated!
But that's not the common user case.
Real pros go the extra mile after that and submit their packages for inclusion into the distribution of course :-)
But I'm not a pro...
At this level checkinstall is of limited use then. Nevertheless it has it's right to exist for beginners and sometimes also if one doesn't care about "doing it the right way" IMO. Better than plain "make install" that circumvents package management completely for sure.
Which is what I am indeed using, plain make install.
So Carlos and Chan, if checkinstall is important to you, you are predestined to take care of it and make sure it works in openSUSE. There are still some instances of it made by other users in OBS. So the spec file for it is already written :-) Maybe you can team up with them to get checkinstall into Factory again and from there to the stable releases.
I will indeed try to find out if I can build checkinstall for myself, yes. Thanks for the hints. But no, I will not provide it for others in OBS, I'm not a pro. I can't take that responsibility. And yes, I do have an OBS account, and I have dedicated hours to reading documents and trying. Not minutes as some here hinted. Didn't work out :-( - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAljCw5IACgkQja8UbcUWM1wsFAD+KMkHeMUcDxN96vNkUMJXuzCZ n4Ox73FyVqGf3azsXfMA/jIhVidTw1oj3qR+VJOts4bAwt4HnFRDcyLrZ3tLvpAN =N0U2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org