On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:55:52PM -0800, PGNet Dev wrote:
On 11/10/2015 12:32 PM, Lars Müller wrote:
I suggest to contact the project maintainers and request/ suggest to enable openSUSE Leap 42.1 as build target.
Which is *exactly* what we do -- every release -- and is exactly the misuse of resource & time that initiated this thread. An investment of time that's apparently not considered of interest or value to the 'majority', however measured.
a) How many releases does openSUSE see? b) How many repositories require this special attention? Calculate it at your own. And then reconsider if this isn't much noise about nothing.
If this remains status-quo, then one of our historically longest & strongest arguments for Opensuse's use -- its incredibly flexible & distro-availble ecosystem of leading-edge software in well-if-not-officially maintained repos -- simply vanishes.
Nothing vanishes. And see Luca's reply too. You're panting a drama which doesn't exist.
We've alternatives for ensuring well-vetted leading-edge software repos; I'd much rather we do it 'here', but it's not in our interest to push rocks uphill by chasing down dozens of maintainers at/after every release.
We're neither 'the project', nor 'the community' that this^^ is apparently a "stupid idea" for.
So you made a suggestion and got replies which explain the different views to how and why individual openSUSE Build Service (OBS) projects handle it in different ways. In particular you got explained why your general "automatically enable the next release as build target" suggestion based on some heuristic would not work well by default for all projects. Here we're at the end of the discussion. Unfortunately you have to continue to contact the individual project maintainers approximately once in a year. Alternatively you get more involved and at the end are able to enable targets on your own. But instead of being productive you're pushing and that isn't appreciated. In particular we tried to explain to you that this isn't a simple black or white decision. But it sounds like argumentation doesn't matter. Also please don't try to fool us with such a ominously "we" usage. Either you're one user or you represent a group. But in both cases there is no need to hide behind this "we". This makes your arguments even weaker. Anyhow, here is the end of the discussion for me. There are so many more productive items to work on. Thanks, Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team + SUSE Labs SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany