On 23/11/15 18:59, ianseeks wrote:
On Monday 23 Nov 2015 17:42:43 Basil Chupin wrote:
This question I have already asked but don't recall what the answer was so am therefore asking again (with an apology if you find it a repetition): will Tumbleweed ever find its place in the sun with its own name in GRUB MENU or will it be forever a number instead of a name (eg, 20151030)? And as an adjunct to this question: will discussions/questions re Tumbleweed forever be consigned to the FACTORY mail list?
Next question.
I have the latest Tumbleweed installed (or rather TW upgraded to the latest release as of yesterday). Now TW has been going for quite some time and is not "a new kid on the block" but the only repositories it has to its name showing in YaST are:
* download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed
* download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss
* download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss
and when you go and try and ADD repositories the only COMMUNITY repositories available are:
* Main Repository (Sources)
* Main Repository (DEBUG)
On the other hand, openSUSE 13.2 (and earlier) have a host of Community repositories available such as Packman, libdvdcss, Games, et al -- but Tumbleweed has zilch (aka zero, nil, nothing).
I make much use of VLC (from videolan.org) to watch digital television on my computer (my wife can watch whatever SHE likes on the big screen in the lounge :-) ) as well as watch DVD films. I also like to play some games included in Pysol. But neither vlc nor Pysol are available in
Tumbleweed. I've got these in my list, is this what you mean?
No, this is not what I mean :-) .
http://download.videolan.org/pub/vlc/SuSE/Tumbleweed/ http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/
Where, and how, did you get this list of repos? They are not listed in YaST's (for Tumbleweed) Community Repositories. My installation of pure, unadulterated, untouched by human hands, Tumbleweed shows these as the only repositories available for Tumbleweed -- output from the command "zypper lr": # | Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh --+-------------------------------------+----------------------------+---------+-----------+-------- 1 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss | Main Repository (NON-OSS) | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes 2 | download.opensuse.org-oss | Main Repository (OSS) | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes 3 | download.opensuse.org-tumbleweed | Main Update Repository | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes 4 | http-download.videolan.org-1be9f8dc | SuSE | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes 5 | openSUSE-20151030-0 | openSUSE-20151030-0 | No | ---- | No 6 | repo-debug | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Debug | No | ---- | Yes 7 | repo-source | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Source | No | ---- | Yes
but i think this one needs updating from factory to tumbleweed http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Factory
Why?
The question therefore is: why is Tumbleweed so bereft of Community repositories when they are, and have been for years, available in versions of openSUSE?
The blurb about Tumbleweed in the wiki (or whatever) extols Tumbleweed as the "bleeding edge" of openSUSE. But this would appear to be an overstatement when one cannot play all the games available or view DVDs or TV when the means to do so are available in the "plain Jane" versions of openSUSE.
(And before you jump in Patrick with your comment I will preempt it by stating that that is not the point -- the repos should be THERE, showing in YaST, so that first time users of Tumbleweed can access them instead of having to jump on one leg at midnight while holding the innards of a cockerel in their left hand while trying to type a post to Factory asking about missing repositories with their right hand [reverse, of course, for left-handed people].)
BC
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