[ Disclaimer: I have used Ubuntu a lot prior joining Novell, but not I have never been employed by them in anyway ] On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 13:23 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
To me it's nonsense. The sudo system is a lot more complex and confusing. You can use your normal password for system administration, then it's remembered for x amount of time, but only the first user on multiuser systems can do it. Ubuntu users have no clue what's going on, and very often they sudo things that they shouldn't.
Not only the first user can do it. That's a simple checkbox when you create a new user. But I agree that sudo is not perfect either (and that users tend to use it when they shouldn't -- although I wouldn't say they have less clue what's going on than in openSUSE, since it's the same with su/root).
Regular root user is much simpler. Either you're root or your not, either you know the root password or you don't. Couldn't possibly be easier to understand.
Well, I disagree with this since you first have to understand what root is and you also have to remember when you're root. That's fine for most people on this list, but it's not fine for 90% of the people I know. But I've absolutely no problem with keeping the root account. It's just a feeling I had when switching from Ubuntu. I'm not claiming it's the best way to handle things.
I agree totally with Vincent. Using sudo, properly configured, also offer the advantage to not have to memorize a second password. You can still keep the root account.
Not having the second level of categorization makes the menu much more messy and cluttered. Unless your next great idea is to install only a handful programs.
Well, it works really well. I very rarely have more than 7 or 10 items in a menu. In gnome-main-menu, the app browser doesn't have all those subcategories, while we have them in the GNOME menu bar. That sounds wrong. This might be something we just want to change on the GNOME side of openSUSE.
That one is bugging my like hell, I end up never finding programs because I don't know how they are categorized. Also submenus are always hard to use. [...] Hub --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org