Hi, After some angst and one night without internet because rules being in the wrong folder /lib/udev/rules.d/ I have decided to add a blame list of packages that still install them in /lib/udev rather that /usr/lib/udev here are mine... rpm -qf /lib/udev/rules.d/*.rules | sort -u hdparm-9.43-1.1.x86_64 libgphoto2-6-2.5.0-5.1.x86_64 libgpod-tools-0.8.2-10.18.x86_64 lirc-0.9.0-3.6.x86_64 NetworkManager-0.9.6.4-2.1.x86_64 please add yours, ModemManager is already fixed... regards, Alin -- Without Questions there are no Answers! ______________________________________________________________________ Alin Marin ELENA Advanced Molecular Simulation Research Laboratory School of Physics, University College Dublin ---- Ardionsamblú Móilíneach Saotharlann Taighde Scoil na Fisice, An Coláiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://alin.elenaworld.net ______________________________________________________________________