On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Cristian Rodríguez <crrodriguez@opensuse.org> wrote:
El 20/06/11 17:33, Carlos E. R. escribió:
Regardless of how difficult you think it is, doesn't make you right.
I'm not claming and right, What I am arguing here is that the amount of work needed is better invested in other, sane tasks.
From the systemd page:
"..the common basic set of OS components of modern Linux machines is not, and has not been in quite some time. And it is unlikely that this is going to be fixed any time soon, or even ever."
Pretty much sums it up.
Now I will claim , "Im right" :-) and encourage people not to waste their precious development time on this thing.
Christian (and others), Specifically related to upgrading servers to 12.1 and future openSUSE versions, what are you arguing for as relates to existing installs that have a separate /usr? (I suspect I have several of those in the stone-age category, so I really do care about the answer.) (In the below, assume server means "init 3" and sound is a non-issue.) Please answer for each of these situations: 1) Basic Server setups (stone-age?) that work fine with sysvinit. (For instance on my basic servers, I could not get mount by guid to work right, so they are still /dev/sda1 style in fstab. Possibly my issue is a broken udev. I don't know, but as long as I keep they old hardcoded /dev/sda style device names I've been able to upgrade to 11.3. I do have LVM in use for data partitions, but not for / or /usr. I also have 3ware raid1 in use. 3 sets actually. OS drive pair. data drive pair, backup drive pair.) 2) Complex Server setups which currently have issues with sysvinit, but the admin may not even know it. (That may be me and why I have to use /dev/sda style names in fstab.) 3) Complex Server setups which cause the admin problems, but for which he has not yet bitten the bullet and re-done his configuration. I assume there are also desktop issues, but I'm personally much more concerned with the server upgrade path. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org