Dne 28.08.2015 v 18:38 Jim Henderson napsal(a):
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 18:23:43 +0200, Ondřej Súkup wrote:
Not really, because it's not openSUSE-specific.
The actual download numbers for 32-bit openSUSE would be better guidance.
no , is same across whole world
If openSUSE users aren't downloading 32-bit in sufficient volume, that's the more useful measurement.
Personally, I don't care how many people around the world use 32-bit systems. I care about the number of people who use openSUSE who use 32- bit systems, and that number, according to Richard, has been shrinking, even though 13.x provides a 32-bit version.
The decline - and rate of decline - is the important measure. Supporting a 32-bit platform until nobody is using 32-bit platforms around the world is a demonstrably silly idea.
That said, though, if there's a group of users who want to continue to build a 32-bit version, that's cool. Let it be like the Pi versions, or the other non-official builds like Evergreen or the education version. That's what open source is all about.
I got rid of my last 32-bit system many years ago. When I was laid off, I had to scrape together enough money to buy a laptop, and I bought a 64- bit system for a pretty good price. I wouldn't say I was in poverty, but I certainly had to watch every penny I spent.
My oldest system here is 10 years old; it's a 64-bit AMD system that maxes out at 2 GB of RAM - the system board won't support more.
We go through this every time an architecture becomes obsolete - it happened with i386 support was dropped (an easy decision since the kernel dropped support for it), but there were a handful of people who said "but *I* still use an 80386 system! What about me?" - using a system that's out of date limits your options in a lot of ways. We also can't use old microchannel hardware any more, or EISA-bus cards.
That's life in the technology space - things change, and you either keep up with the times, or you find your choices limited. I don't say that to be "mean" or anything - it's just the reality of the situation.
If you have a platform that accounts for 90% of use and one that accounts for 20%, you don't allocate equal resources to the platform that has 10% - that's a poor way of managing resources.
+1 Simple bugzilla search shows that this year, following numbers of issues were reported for Tumbleweed (and had architecture specified) x86_64: 233 i386, i586, i686: 6 Note that although number of repors for TW is much larger (878), architecture is not specified in most cases, but ratio suggests that amount of 32-bit systems is bellow 3%. Cheers Martin Pluskal