All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting Meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Participants AdaLovelace, lkocman, dirk, Richard, wengel, DocB, gp, maxlin ## Leap Migration of docs to https://opensuse.github.io/openSUSE-docs-revamped-temp/index.html are we in scope? Adrien > The migration initiative is documented here: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Documentation_migration) . Its scope is defined by several conditions, but in a nutshell, it corresponds to a surface area in Tumbleweed, and common between Tumbleweed and Leap, that is fundamentally important for a new user. Examples: yast, snapper, zypper, btrfs, repositories and updates management, desktop environments, workflow basics.. The full table of contents can be found at https://opensuse.github.io/openSUSE-docs-revamped-temp/. Do we want to support the effort? Is there any existing expectation from the release team? So far it seems to be related only to desktop experience related docs. Confirmation regarding scoping would be nice. Namely (just a small subset that comes to my mind that I need to bump every year) Tasks: https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/blob/master/Alpha.md#cr... https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/blob/master/GA.md#updat... (and few other tasks on the list) aside from these listed in the github there is also few others (todo add them to git) https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_for_Leap https://en.opensuse.org/Features_15.3 https://en.opensuse.org/Feature_Planning_15.4 https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:How_to_migrate_to_SLE https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade Adrien > To the best of my understanding, no item on the list is in the scope of the previously mentioned migration initiative. lkocman: Thank you Adrien! TODO: 15.3 - SElinux won't boot without selinux policy https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1187326 I have to look into this seems SLE disabled feature in skelcd-control files. We will most likely have to supply the policy, but that will only work with enabled updates. (Release notes entry needed). SP3 selinux-policy seems to have a working fix for SLE, so we could most likely reuse it. TODO check this. Advertise https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features this on factory as a place to raise RFEs or larger efforts for the release. 15.3 Quarterly update setup is still in TODO Discussed Leap 15.4 roadmap was published at https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap Review of the openSUSE-release-process happened last Friday (Max, Dominique, lkocman) ## openSUSE Tumbleweed dleuenberger on FTO - from August 9 - 20 - Richard is covering * TW is rolling, but mostly unspectacular changes. * Reviews were sporadic but after an email to the review team they seem to be flowing quite well at the moment * glibc 2.34 staged - still ~27 failures * systemd 249 is in staging, broke two tests, waiting on the maintainer to confirm whether or not the issue is worth blocking further * kernel 5.13.9 with UsrMerge support in staging ## Richard (Kubic/TW MicroOS) k8s versions 1.22.0 is on the way container-selinux with integrated k3s support from upstream is otw - should facilitate k3s-with-selinux without third party RPMs in the future. Working on adding k3s-install to Kubic, a curated version of the Rancher k3s installation script that negates the need to curl random shell scripts from the internet. MicroOS team is concerned that the 'revamped docs' are overlapping and incorrect the official MicroOS docs at https://microos.opensuse.org. There does not seem to be a willingness to correct that issue ## Max * Working on obsoleted binary finder - https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issues/75 and https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issues/74, the output https://github.com/nilxam/leap_development/blob/master/scripts/obsoletes_pac... from my script( https://github.com/nilxam/leap_development/blob/master/scripts/obsoletes_fin... ) looks sensible, the next step is merging the result to NON_FTP_PACKAGES.group - a filter list in 000package-groups which will be loaded for pkglistgen * Thanks to Adrian, local repository is fixed after tweaked local limit filter rules for Leap 15.4. A succees Leap 15.4 product build appeared. * TTM for 15.4 is enabled * Will prepare a PR to add Leap 15.4 sync_config to openQA ## Guillaume - Arm Will be on FTO - from 9th to 27th of August. Tumbleweed: * installation-images:* are broken for Arm since last update. A fix is in system:install:head/installation-images and will be forwarded to Factory. * Fix for btrfs support in u-boot is on the way to Factory: https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/909899 Leap 15.3: * Armv7: Is good enough to release officialy. The maintenance setup is problematic, so we may not freeze and need to keep a rolling release model. Any opinion? WSL: Stalled: WIP to have WSL on aarch64 on https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:Guillaume_G:WSL todo: lkocman to write a blog post how We have a WSL feature for 15 SP4 to have all SUSE/openSUSE images installed from outside of the store "adopt the new behavior". Therefore we wouldn't have to build the WSL-DistroLauncher image any more. ## Sarah - s390x * Problems were with Tumbleweed releases because of kernel bug in several packages ( cross-epiphany-gcc11-bootstrap and gcc): https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188896 * Blocking packages have been killed. New Tumbleweed release should be tested today. * 7 VMs ordered after the offer to receive long-term (not only 120 days) VMs in the LinuxONE Community Cloud (pre-installed SLES), which can be upgraded to openSUSE (there is an unofficial documentation for this on wiki). -> All VMs will be assigned to Sarah's account and she will forward the long-term access to the team * bi-weekly training sessions tor topics as mainframes, containerization, packaging: First session today: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/zsystems@lists.opensuse.org/message... * Next training session today about Technical view on the mainframe architecture ## Doug FTO - from August 2 - 14 (will be availalbe for sprint, Summit and Nest. hopefully I have good internet ;-) * openSUSE.Asia Summit (August 6th- 8th) * Gave team an overview on tools and capablities of venueless * Fedora Nest/Flock booth complete * Collaboration panel discussion * Regular Meeting * finetuned software.o.o. proposal - https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20210724 * Date: Every Saturday from 17:00 to 19:00 UTC (per the survey) (7- 9pm CEST) Location: https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting * Likely there will be another 11:00 UTC meeting on Saturdays. Will send out email after I have the info. * will likely work on or discuss process for membership given connect.o.o will deactive * heroes plan to deactivate connect.o.o. ## Dirk Not present Regular things, nothing important to report ## Gerald No update ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling A proposal to move all SLE forks to subpackages module/prouduct https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issues/71 This would then fix our problem with submit requests not being forwarded to the correct origin. GAP was removed completly from openSUSE:Backports:SLE-15-SP4 (and therefore from Leap 15.4) Looking into migration scenarious from Leap to SLE that SUSE might support https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade - Covers also migration from Leap X.Y to SLE X.Y ## Maintenance team (Marina or Marcus) Marina: the rpm version update for 15.3 is ready to be released. We are just waiting for SUMA team before releasing it. This release could trigger a lot of rebuilds ;) Ongoing interactions between maintenance and PackageHub teams. Quite some good ideas on improvements. Info: Marina FTO on weeks 33 and 34. Q for maintenance team: https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/26 would this result into increased load on maint team? Marina: The first thing on my mind is a load for QA Team (Heiko). +Most likely a one time setup for maint. team. lkocman: Light touch on the topic to display status of SLES updates to community. We can try to find the way to export the data. MArcus: Generally could be possible, but we need to explicitly avoid exposing embargoed security issues to the outside. Also review IP/NDA updates where the schedule is not public. Marcus: is there any update on the Leap 15.3 respins. lkocman: Unfortunatelly no, it's currently blocked on me. ## Adrian - CtLG or openSUSE Step Back from vacation All covered in comments above. Adrian: I had to fix issues in product builder so we won't end up in situation where srpm is missing. We've had this issue by glibc (this would otherwise violate GPL). This would be another reason to rebuild ftp trees. How do we reference to CODE 15. 15.3 was the result of our survey.