On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar <DimStar@opensuse.org> wrote:
I know, a radical proposal, BUT a bunch of reported issues in 12.2 are around systemd/sysinitV, both trying to do the same thing, differently. It would clearly help the distribution to commit clearly to ONE init system only, officially and formally ditching the other. This allows for proper testing of ONE Init System and fixing issues around it. Not having to worry for an alternative INIT System can only have it's advantages.
+1 The claims to systemd being horribly broken all seem a bit FUDy to me. I can quite understand them, as it *was* horribly broken when 12.1 was released-- but all systemd problems I have seen in 12.1 seemed to be caused by lack of enough loving (and testing), and all have been fixed eventually. Sure, systemd sucks, but it sucks considerably less than SystemV. Sure, things are done differently, but that does not make them worse at all. And the upstream docs are actually quite well written (if you ignore some of the nonsense and non sequiturs in the examples of the author(s).) And the man pages are wonderful. You just have to read them in order to appreciate the improvements systemd brings. (I'm not saying you all haven't read them, but it seems like some of you haven't even tried.) Once the introductory and high-level openSUSE docs are released, that gap will be closed as well. In case something really doesn't work, file a bug or fix it yourself. But maintaining both systems won't improve systemd quality, given the small number of contributors. -- Kind regards 686f6c6d / Christopher 'm4z' Holm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org