On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 11:05:20 +0200 Richard Brown <RBrownCCB@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 10:41, Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.de> wrote:
So by striving to have uniform, easy-to-maintain packages we get less packages. And less packagers, too.
In general uniformity does not make life easier for free openSUSE contributors but perhaps uniformity is mainly useful for some special SUSE maintenance people?
The current processes are open to anyone, and the standards have been established through regular iterations by the the diverse openSUSE community, who are also responsible for their implementation. openSUSE's level of engineering excellence is repeatedly cited as a reason many of our users are drawn to our offerings. We should never put that at risk.
I notice many of the complainants against the status quo in this thread are SUSE employees who are either expressing opinions or relaying the opinions of others that do not comply with SUSE's Open Source Policy.
https://opensource.suse.com/suse-open-source-policy
I would recommend that those employees contact their management to discuss their inability to comply or disinterest in following company policy. The benefit or lack thereof a publicly announced company policy is best not discussed on any mailing-list.
I would also point out that if the openSUSE community reduced its level of quality and uniformity in the codebase, there is a significant chance that openSUSE's usefulness to SUSE would be directly impacted.
I think there is a misrepresentation of SUSE company policy here. Contributions to openSUSE might be desirable but I see no policy that would require that opensource tools used internally by employees should be submitted to openSUSE. What I see here expressed is that some of these tools that are maintained in OBS for ease of deployment could be included in opneSUSE if the barrier for contribution was lower. We as SUSE employees are not going away when openSUSE makes it harder to submit packages like the average Joe Contributor. We are just going to contribute less to openSUSE. When it is more practical (ie overall less work to do for all systems relevant to you) to add another repository than to submit the package into the official release repository (to be available without additional setup) you will choose the former rather than the latter. For some tools it does not even make sense to include them in openSUSE at all no matter the ease of contribution. They are just not going to be useful for anyone outside SUSE. Thanks Michal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org