On 11/25/2014 06:45 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Hendrik Woltersdorf <hendrikw@arcor.de> wrote:
Am 25.11.2014 um 18:07 schrieb Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger:
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 18:02 +0100, Lukas Ocilka wrote: Fully agree; the usecase is something we will need to find (again) for the DVD; problem is that this discussion is likely to take a bit more time (anybody on this list knows that people tend to talk forever); but we're running low on space now, hence the more direct approach of saving space 'right now' with something I could make out rather quickly (and it is one of the larger packages).
I'd prefer not to mix meta-discussion about the DVD itself in this thread right now.
Dominique
My suggestions (taken from a top N list of packages on the 13.2-DVD sorted by size):
- frozen-bubble (a game) - Do we need two java versions on DVD? (1.7 and 1.8) - some fonts - some doc/source packages
Hendrik
The DVD has 2 major use cases:
- To install openSUSE in full without an Internet connection
If we want to fulfill this use case without losing any package, what prevents us from preparing two (or even more) DVD images? Jiri
- To be a much less bandwidth intense install than a NET install
Hendrik's suggestions would impact users installing to isolated / non-internet connected machines. I think they should all stay.
My opinion is anything to do with core networking must critically be on the DVD.
Anything to do with Internet application communications is a low priority unless they would be useful on networks permanently air-gapped from the Internet: ie. web-browsers, proxy servers, e-mail clients, Internet related daemons (ftp, apache, sendmail, postfix) would all be things I would consider dropping first.
Greg
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