David Haller wrote:
Hello,
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Linda Walsh wrote:
David Haller wrote:
Linda, as much as I don't like a lot that is going on, that stuff is not exclusive to openSUSE. A lot comes from upstream, like kde.org, gnome.org and freedesktop.org. Really? The full list of files and rpms that changed on my system are below.
freedesktop.org defines standards and develops stuff. E.g. avahi, dbus, fontconfig, pkg-config, plymouth, pm-utils, policykit, portland, shared-mime-info, startup-notification, xdg-utils, Xft, Xorg all come from/via freedesktop.org. See http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software
But my point was that none of the binaries that were moved from "/" to /usr, were desktop related .. i.e. -- none of the files that were moved are on the list you just gave. That means it is "gratuitous" package moving from upstream. In the packages I looked at, SuSE had to **ADD** patches to change upstream defaults -- to move them from "/" (bin,sbin) to /usr. One of SuSE's claims on their justification page for doing this was that by doing this, they could remove patches -- so far, I have seen no removals -- only added patches to support this scheme.
Try building / installing any _GUI_ software without using stuff from freedesktop.org and/or Gnome/KDE.
--- I believe you -- but the packages I listed aren't ones provided by freedesktop.org.
What in the desktop rpms require themselves to be brought up BEFORE disks are mounted?
That fancy bootsplash stuff does.
---- I don't use that.
Is your intention to make openSUSE a desktop only OS?
Last I've used a "desktop" was KDE 1.1.2. I use WindowMaker. I do not use any bootsplash, *DM. Nor any indexing (tracker, zeitgeist, akonadi, whatever), besides locate, mktexlsr/kpsewhich and my own-scripts. The fanciest I use is gkrellm and that's mostly because it can display a lot of info on little space (even the mixer plugin works ;)
---- I have a split system. I run a Windows machine as my desktop and it uses the linux machine for everything else. Gkrellm is pretty nifty, though I don't like the fact that it can't resize a tad larger, so I use xosview. Also -- it's not just /usr that is being used on boot -- but /usr/share. That's ANOTHER partition. So far, I see no reason why the I listed can't remain in / and be linked from /usr. Then none of this would be an issue. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org