Am Dienstag, 30. Mai 2006 10:52 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
Marcus Meissner <meissner@suse.de> writes:
One question we have is how the new tools rug, zen-updater and zmd compare to what we had before with YaST Online Update and suseWatcher. We are interested in every feedback ranging from architecture, design or used standards and their enhancements.
It should be possible to disable and remove the whole ZMD stuff and still be able to work from commandline.
Why? What is the reason behind this?
For this is missing:
- commandline installation source management (installation_sources equiv.) - commandline package installation (basically the yast -i pkg thing) - commandline online update (online_update equiv.)
Do you like the user interface of rug, so would rug as *interface* work for you? Or is that broken?
Reminds me of the unix-way-of-doing things: we first need a fast, damn-good working command line tool. Then we can start about discussing and implementing GUIs for this command line. ZDM should run on rug, not vice-versa, as an additional feature. I also think, that removing the package manager from YaST is a good idea. yast and yast2 makes a lot of work. With a good commandline tool, there is no need for yast-pm in console mode. It's too much work. Let's make (rug) the best commandline tool, and then give rug two frontend-families: zen-installer for newbies, (please one tool, not intstaller and remover) and zen-updater a new qt/gtk-frontend with full installation source management, selections etc I also like the new user management, so you do not need the root password for package installation. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99