Fredag 03 oktober 2008 08:35:25 skrev Michal Vyskocil:
On Thursday 02 of October 2008 17:28:16 Martin Schlander wrote:
It's my understanding that 11.1 is planned to ship with openjdk 1.6 installed by default and with (only) Sun Java 1.6 available via non-oss repo. I'd like to discuss this, as it causes some major problems - at least for Danish users.
Well, the term 'We will still provide a latest available Sun JVM' in my comment [1] was not clear. I meant, the we will continue to bring an updates for existing Sun JVMs. There was no drop of Sun Java for 11.1 and no discussion about it.
If Sun Java 1.5 _will_ be available on non-oss repo, then I don't have any problems. If openjdk fulfills the needs of most people, I'm in favour of using it as the default. My worry here was not which is default, but just that Sun Java 1.5 be available for easy, clean installation.
1) With Danske Bank - the largest Danish bank, home banking only works properly with Sun Java 1.5. With Sun Java 1.6 some core functionality doesn't work and with openjdk 1.6 you can't even login at all.
So could be bnc#430401 marked as WONTFIX? Because openjdk is an equivalent of Sun Java 1.6.
No, #430401 refers to another Danish banking system (BEC) which is a common system used by many smaller banks. And this system _does_ work with Sun Java 1.6 (on 32-bit systems)
2) Another home bank system, common to many smaller Danish banks, won't work with Sun Java 1.6 on x86_64 systems (even with 32-bit firefox+32-bit java, even though it does work on full 32-bit systems with Sun Java 1.6). https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=288750
That's a common problem of Sun Java [2] (and maybe another ones), because there's no x86_64 java plugin.
No the problem is not the lack of a plugin, this strange error happens when using 32-bit Firefox, 32-bit Sun Java 1.6 and 32-bit Sun Java 1.6 plugin, on an otherwise 64-bit system. Presumably due to something compression related (see the bug report above). On a 100% 32-bit system there's no problem. It's a very strange problem to me too, but it's been there consistently at least since 10.0 - I test it every release.
In summary, 11.1 will be unusable for Danske Bank customers and most x86_64 users without Sun Java 1.5 available - making it very difficult to recommend to anyone.
No, but it's necessary to do some manuall work, like
zypper install java-1_5_0-sun-plugin update-alternatives --config java update-alternatives --config javaplugin
This is fully acceptable to me. The whole misunderstanding was about the availability of Sun Java 1.5 or not. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org