On Saturday 20 September 2008 03:31:42 pm Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
I believe everyonw has read that: http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2008091902235NWSW
Alexey, I know that I didn't read that.
In short: Today openSUSE's X server crashes if the video card gets upgraded. After reboot X doesn't start = reformat and reinstall <- That's what all new users will do.
Well, those that use Ubuntu, are good candidates. As a side comment, Ubuntu is good as a first step, but if you want real Linux you need openSUSE.
Do we want this reaction? Obviously not.
BulletProof
X
is a technology that can detect
Not loaded X server in a first instance, than it can look for reasons.
changed video card, and use VESA driver instead automatically, without the need for using command-line.
I would like to see this technology adapted for openSUSE.
I guess it is somewhere on long to do list ;-) Check bugzilla. Maybe there is already proposed enhancement. Actually script that is starting X knows very well that server doesn't run. What is missing is to add attempt to start system with /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install which is VESA driver based, and tell GUI to display message about suboptimal graphic driver. Of course next step would be to develop troubleshooter, and that might be nice task to start more community involvement in development. Instead of 20th version of BitTorrent client, 50th text editor, etc.
What do you think of it ?
Anyone who is changing his hardware this way and is not aware that he has to do some configuration steps (very simple here: just call sax2) is a fool. And don't forget: serving fools just creates a new fool - you.
Comment is perfectly valid for changed graphic adapter, but there are use cases where X will not start with configured driver, but instead to fall back to VESA, or generic driver, or start configuration automatically user will see terminal screen. For classic Linux users that is no brainer, but for new guys it is. They are used to reinstall stuff that gives no clue what to do next, and perfectly functional text mode doesn't give any clues. The motd is only "Have a lot of fun ...". Not much to start with, if you see login screen first time. -- Regards, Rajko --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org