On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 12:01 +0200, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 04:20:09PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 15:56 +0200, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
One example why committing to systemd is not simply about switching the init daemon. And it seems from the responses on the Fedora and GNOME lists that I'm not the only one getting the impression that systemd employs technology to push personal and political agendas.
Sure the agendas of a whole lot of people. Like every actively maintained project.
Systemd tries to solve the system service management, not just to replace init. It was clear from the beginning, and it wasn't started to just replace SYSV. It will be some sort of a base system on its own.
Judging by the current speed of adoption by distros, and the dropping of SYSV support by many of them, and the pressure coming from the enterprise people for advanced features, I don't think there is much to discuss on the general direction in the future, unless someone comes up with something else on top the current stuff.
From the side of the enterprise people: /usr mountable ro. Please note that we have customers which are using exactly this feature.
Sure, they will just need an initramfs that can do that, if they want it to work in the future. Actually, the long-term goal is to merge the useless split of / and /usr back to /usr and be able to mount /usr ro on every system. It's the same model as Android is doing with /system. /usr will contain the entire system, and only /etc and /var will be host-specific. /usr can be ro and be shared between many machines of the same architecture. But all logic to set it up before init starts will be in in the initramfs. People are actually already working on it. Kay -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org