El martes, 23 de mayo de 2023 18:19:06 (CEST) Patrick Shanahan escribió:
* Attila Pinter via openSUSE Factory <factory@lists.opensuse.org> [05-23-23 11:33]:
On Tuesday, May 23rd, 2023 at 8:05 PM, Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> wrote:
* Attila Pinter via openSUSE Factory factory@lists.opensuse.org [05-22-23 23:11]:
We finalized the CoC a little while back to try and avoid issues like this, but here we are. It is honestly saddens me that this mentality is still present, but if we are here already lets discuss.
"Celebrating one day and not others is not very inclusive" Everyone is free to submit artwork of logos - and other pictures - for different holidays which the mods of the different channels can change if approved and found appropriate. This was never an issue, and was always possible However, last I checked for example Christianity wasn't facing much oppression in the world, and didn't require much (if any) support. With that said it would be cool to have a Geeko logo wearing a Santa hat during the Christmas holidays :)
But I digress. By having the rainbow logo up on Reddit and Telegram our intention is to show support for oppressed communities, individuals, and to promote inclusion within the community. We do welcome everyone no matter where you from, what is your religion, or what you identify as. There are guard rails in place to protect everyone from attacks. And yes the rainbow logo proved to be a great way of filtering out toxic individuals with a non-inclusive, disrespectful behavior early on, this is not a secret.
that is a "political" stance and should be completely outside any consideration for a linux distribution.
Anyhow if you find it important to raise your concerns about a rainbow picture, jump into "whataboutism", and attack members of the community so publicly instead of showing kindness, being inclusive, and respecting the Code of Conduct in place then you might have some thinking to do. However, if you strongly believe that you're right to raise such concerns, and personally attack others you might want to look for a community that is in line with your believes, since this community might not for you.
you address the "concern" rather than the stance. it is a linux distribution, not a political platform.
Please read the Code of Conduct1, understand it, feel free to raise your questions if any, but more importantly I kindly request compliance as such breaches cannot be accepted.> > maybe politics should be mentioned there.
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If you honestly believe that being kind, or showing respect to other human beings within this community, or out on the streets, or at your work has anything to do with politics you have some real serious problems to deal with.
I'll be straight with you: it is my opinion that you're a disgrace to this project, and you should've been banned permanently a long time ago. The fact that you're still a member is an insult to the openSUSE community, and to the Members.
Feel free to take that as my official "political statement".
as you made this post both private(direct) and on-list, should you not personally abide by the CoC, yourself rather than publically deriding *any* individual?
I made no statement against any one individual or group. And I stand that openSUSE as a community should not be involved in politics and as such should not profess support or lack of support for minority or majority groups. and that is "Politics" 101!
I completely agree with you. openSUSE is about technology, not politics. Cheers, -- Javier Llorente