May I ask, what is wrong with Ristretto, which seems to be the Xfce desktop's standard image viewer?
Nothing wrong with it. It’s currently in the Pattern and I will not touch it. Ristretto is an image viewer whereas Pix and Shotwell are for photo management. Personally I would favor native Xfce apps when available and stick to the Xfce philosophy, unless the apps have serious issues. X-Apps and Mate apps would be to fill the gaps imo. On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 7:48 PM Liam Proven <lproven@suse.cz> wrote:
On 25/10/2018 18:14, Maurizio Galli wrote:
- replace Shotwell with Pix (part of X-Apps: fork of gThumb and has more features than Shotwell for photo management)
I have looked at both Shotwell and Pix now -- I do not normally use either.
May I ask, what is wrong with Ristretto, which seems to be the Xfce desktop's standard image viewer?
Pix certainly seems to be more capable than Ristretto, yes. Shotwell may be more capable than that. As I said, I don't normally use either.
But surely the key question is this:
* favour Xfce apps where they exist, even if they are lighter-weight
_or_
* favour best-of-breed apps even if they come from another desktop or do not integrate?
I would certainly favour Xapps over GNOME apps, as Xapps have a standard UI with a title bar/toolbar/menu bar, whereas GNOME apps have the IMHO clumsy new CSD.
However, I would favour Xfce apps over Xapps.
My suggestion would be: [1] Xfce app if one is available [2] Failing that, an Xapp, as they are cross-desktop [3] Failing #1 *and* #2, then a Maté app [4] Failing #1 && #2 && #3 then any other Gtk app with a conventional UI.
IMHO the goal should be to avoid important a ton of GNOME/Cinnamon/Maté dependencies, and to have apps with a fairly uniform UI and which interoperate well while remaining fairly lightweight.
E.g. I have nothing against Mousepad but I happen to find Geany has some useful features for XML editing, which is my day job, and Xed has some for AsciiDoc, which I also sometimes use. All are interchangeable for me, whereas GNOME 3 Gedit does not have a conventional UI and does not fit in.
I think the main GNOME 3 app I see every day now is the system update program. I do not like it at all: it has CSD, no way to sort by size/status/etc of updates, and its progress display is frankly incomprehensible. It's a good example of what I consider to be broken GNOME 3 app behaviour: "simplified" into uselessness. I would be *delighted* to see that replaced!
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