Robert Schweikert - 9:41 2.12.13 wrote:
On 12/02/2013 06:25 AM, Richard Brown wrote:
On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 11:50 +0100, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Our testing are devel projects. I bet some use devel:gcc to test gcc and report bugs before you send it to Factory. But not enough.
That is exactly how I prefer to operate when testing/maintaining GNOME
Using GNOME:Factory (the gnome devel repo) with Factory gives me a way of testing all of the 'incoming' GNOME changes.
If something in our GNOME devel repo fouls up, I'm a simple 'zypper removerepo' and 'zypper dup' away from getting my machine back to 'usable' so I can get working on figuring out what broke in GNOME
The only reason I don't use this approach 24/7, 365 days a year is that with our current approach, Factory isn't 'stable' enough. Or to put it another way, there's about as much chance (if not more) every time I 'zypper up' my machine that recent updates to Factory are going to break my system, as the recent updates to our GNOME devel project..
I think the suggestions so far take us huge strides towards making Factory usable in exactly the kind of way *I* need it.. which is why I'm so excited by them.
Well I HATE rebooting my machine, sitting on top of Factory would imply kernel updates on a more regular basis and that doesn't work for me. Rebooting 2 or 3 times during the 8 month release cycle is more than enough for me.
If we do not chase the kernel in the new Factory model, but only update the Factory kernel every 3 months or so when there is a new upstream release then I am OK with it, but if we have RC releases in Factory and I would end up having to reboot every two weeks as the kernel release cycle is approaching a new release that is just not going to work for me.
You don't have to. Zypper supports multiversion at least for kernels very well. You can keep your current kernel, install the latest ones and reboot when you feel like it ;-) -- Michal HRUSECKY SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. openSUSE Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xFED656F6 19000 Praha 9 mhrusecky[at]suse.cz Czech Republic http://michal.hrusecky.net http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org