Closing the Leap Gap - Weekly Update All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ClosingTheLeapGap-meeting Attendees (please add yourself): Adrian, gp, lkocman, Doug, Marcus, Stephan, Alex, Heiko =================================== 1.0 Project plan: https://confluence.suse.com/display/leap/Project+plan =================================== 2.0 Schedule: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap openSUSE Leap 15.2 FCS July 2nd 2020 =================================== 3.0 Priority items and blockers List of features marked as "DeveloperProgram" https://jira.suse.com/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=34230 JUMP related work is tracked here https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/jump_152/issues Simplified Feature request for openSUSE Leap contributors https://jira.suse.com/browse/JIRA-722 No blockers as of today. =================================== 4.0 Updates from individual teams =================================== 4.1 Product Management Owner: Stefan Behlert No update. Stefan is in constant contact with Release Managers. Stefan is aware of Gerald's feedback (see section bellow), we'll think about it. =================================== 4.2 openSUSE Leap Release Management Owner: Lubos Kocman A initial meeting with JIRA team. A process diagram to be delivered by May 19th. Adrian: le'ts make sure that we have someting that works for both bugs and feature requests. Internal workflow is up for discussion about how to make it visible. Let's differentiate in between bugfixes, small changes, big feature requests. Make sure that we do respect SLE schedule for 1/3 of Leap packages. Adrian: if SR would be done against public project. Differentiation is already implemented in OBS, how to accept it and acknowledge it is a different thing. A CtLG guidance for where to submit request: https://confluence.suse.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=476709080 =================================== 4.3. openSUSE Leap Release Engineering Owner: Max Lin Not available =================================== 4.4 SLE Release Management Owner: Alex Herzig, Stefan Weiberg All Features are being worked on. Jira does not reflect that well as TMP Evaluates also includes when the Engineering team is evaluating. 30 Features are done, Big thanks to Yifan and his team for work on the Desktop part. All qemu/libvirt part is postponed to next release. Some features are blocked on update of relevant libraries (libzstd, lighttpd integration). =================================== 4.5 Autobuild Owner: Lars Vogdt, Adrian Schroeter Adrian: no update. Working on a different assignment =================================== 4.6 Maintenance Owner: Stephan Barth No udpate, ECOs are ongoing, all fine. =================================== 4.7 Security Owner: Marcus Meissner No changes since last week. No upate, Marcus is involved in current CtLG features. Clarification of ECO and CtLG. This will be covered in FAQ https://confluence.suse.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=476709080 =================================== 4.8 Package Hub Owner: Wolfgang Engel No update from package side. 4.9 Beta Program Owner: Vincent Moutoussamy Not available. We've started a draft of communication regarding recent changes towards improved transparency with the community. Communication will not happen until Monday. Gerald offered help to review the document. Thanks Gerald for community teasers. How would be the go/nogo for the CtLG handled? Lubos: Distribution build wise: I'd like to have a ins tallable image build as part of the Jump:15.2 OBS project. Then we'd like have a period of testing for the community, consume fedback and have a Go-Nogo session on the openSUSE Release Engineering meeting. Gerald: There is multiple related efforts, such opening Bugzilla, improving the feature process, merging changes in Leap to SLE, Jump,.... Many of these should quite non-controversial. Unless there is clear pushback, openSUSE tends to follow a "those who do decide". Lubos: the CtLG effort has multiple building blocks. Each block has probably different set of stakeholders or approvers. Let's make sure that we get them all right. Action item for Lubos is to map efforts on https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Leap - Discuss, Define and be Transparent with the openSUSE Community: Communication sent to openSUSE but also internal SUSE ML (linux@) and Public SLE Beta ML (sle-beta@lists.suse.com): https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-04/msg00145.html - Upcoming news-o-o -> https://github.com/openSUSE/news-o-o/pull/36 I hope to review some to give an initial inputs on the opening bugzilla initiative next week. Gerald: I've read the email thread and there was just one response. Was it just an update or are there any next steps from the email. Vincent: It was intended to be a status update on all of the efforts and initiatives which are currently. Action item: keep opensuse-project@ updated with perhaps changes. This could be first set of incomming bugs and so on. Way for community to engage or see the value. Vincent: the initiative for bugzilla is a longer term effort, so please expect this to take some time. Gerald: Release early, Release often. =================================== 4.10 Engineering / Product Migration Owner: Jiri Srain Not available No update. Discussion regarding yast dependency on kernel. kernel does not exist for i586. No conclusion yet. Current migration scenarion is being tested by QA (roughly for a month already). Have a look into Fedora single click migration. 3 step migration, in principal everything is in. Necessary packages need to be part of opensuse (migration plugin etc.) SCC will have to be configured properly. We'll have to deal with packaging issues regarding branding packages. Everything should be ideally solved on the packaging side. Some hacks can be done but it's not prefered. Current approach is handling all on the packaging side (Effort by Ludwig). Registration schema (for AutoYaST) is currently in the queue for Public RC milestone of SLES. Todo: Migration path from Leap to Jump. =================================== 4.11 Engineering - Kernel Owner: Libor Pechacek lkocman: A pending meeting to resolve all kernel for Leap/Jump issue, timeline, implementation etc. Yast package dependency on kernel on i586 has been resolved. Libor does not see any compelling reason, other than support for "old" hardware, for building 32bit kernel so the 32bit topic is closed for the moment on his side. Maybe we should keep Jump with aligned with SLE as much as possibe, to make the migration path to SLE as easy as possible. We don't have 32bit kernel in SLE therefore it shouldn't be in Jump or Leap as well. This topic was raised because of the yast2 buildrequires on kernel. See SLE RM section. Libor is open to hear any other reasoning to have 32bit in Leap. There are two features about RT, what should QA do about them? The highest RT level, does not come for free and development have invested quite a lot of time to get this working. It's a PM decision. lkocman: sync of kernel-rt was approved, but nothing to do for QA yet on any RT features. stefan: We do not expect Leap to ship the full RT product as of now. Libor: Current Leap kernel has bettert RT behavior than SLE, so the fact that we would not include in in Leap seems awkward. Adrian: Jump would get kernel-rt as soon as it's exported, so would have to blacklist it from ftp tree in Leap. Let's postpone pending RT features (lttng, ...) to the next release. =================================== 4.12 Engineering - Desktop Owner: Stefan Weiberg Not available =================================== 4.13 Quality Assurance Owner: Marita Werner Heiko: Working with folks from other departments on progressing ECOs. Nothing to do for RT in SP2. Team is looking to all features, and checking whether there is some work for them or not. Vincent: Is there a dedicated team on openSUSE, just like in SLE? Lubos: There is an agreement to have a one person a week dedicated to openSUSE Leap. Marita: Outside of regular work there are some people who are involved more into community effort and people who are less. =================================== 4.14 SLE Architect Owner: Thorsten Kukuk Not present, therefore no update. =================================== 4.15 Marketing and Community management Owner: Douglas DeMaio Virtual Summit Video is still in post processing. Once we have it, I can post to openSUSETV Youtube, which should increase the awareness of CTLG =================================== 4.16 Marketing Customers & Partners Owner: Sarah Whitlock No update this week. =================================== 4.17 Gerald Owner: Gerald ;-) Interview with Swapnil Bhartiya now online: https://twitter.com/GeraldPfeifer/status/1258072289586921472 Are we involving (the non-SUSE part of) openSUSE enough? Can we open more regarding work done, updates,...? 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