On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:00:40PM -0400, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 04/02/2014 07:39 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 09:00:24AM -0400, Robert Schweikert wrote:
Hi,
On 03/26/2014 06:55 AM, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
Hello,
after initial discussion on the -packaging list (see http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-packaging/2014-02/msg00136.html) and incorporating some of the feedback we would like to introduce the attached openSUSE Enhancement Proposal about creating a safe namspace of system user and group names. Further comments and reviews would be appreciated.
Full text of the OSEP (currently maintained at https://github.com/lnussel/osep_opensuse_usernames/blob/master/opensuse_user...):
This is a cross distribution problem and I do not think we should just go it alone without at least speaking with other distros. Has anyone contacted Fedora and or Debian to see if we can find a common solution?
Coincidentally the LSB working group just had a face to face meeting at the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit last week and we decided that after the release of the LSB 5.0 specification we (the LSB work group) want to shift our focus and become the place where distributions can discuss such problems and come to an agreement for Linux as a platform rather than every distro implementing their own solution.
So, trying to take over the role that freedesktop.org currently has? :)
Hmm, not really, I think. Stuff that freedesktop.org has done has found it's way into the LSB, see xdg-utils for example. But I can see where there would be a potential overlap with freedesktop.org and that's certainly worth a discussion (not on this list of course) ;)
The LSB working group is still interested in verification though, while freedesktop.org provides documentation without testing or a pledge by distributions to actually implement the stuff that's on freedesktop.org. So there is a bit of a different angle.
Yes, but the overlap is "interesting". Where would a group of developers go if they wanted to create something new that spans distros / desktop environments? Right now it's been freedesktop, and then after everyone agrees, the LSB could codify it. But now, the LSB could be the place to do this work. So, how is someone supposed to know where to go? How will you ensure that duplicate things don't happen? How will you get one group to agree to the other group's differences if the same thing happens in 2 places in different ways? And finally, why is the LSB doing this at all? What need are you thinking needs to be fufilled that was "broken"?
That's a _really_ big change for LSB,
Yes it is.
was this announced anywhere?
We are still working on that part. There is an executive summary of the LSB meeting here: https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/en/LSB_Plenary_2014#Meeting_Minutes
Nice, so the 5.x spec is the last of it's kind, that's great to see finally happen. But why not just disolve the group entirely? There's no need to keep on meeting to do things that are already handled in other areas (i.e. freedesktop) in order to just continue to do things.
Detailed meeting minutes are to follow, that's on Jeff's plate ;) plus Jeff has to report through the LF chain what the working group came up with last week ;) maybe you can help with that, hint hint.... :D
I'm not involved in that at all, for good reasons. If I was, the LSB would have been dissolved a long time ago :) greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org