Den Tuesday 18 September 2007 16:27:22 skrev Gregg Nicholas:
I reopened [Bug 264228] nspluginwrapper + java plugin problems [Bug 288750] Home bank issues with java+firefox on x86_64 to get a final decision. I know it's really late, but a 64bit system without a working firefox/java combination is a blocker in my eyes.
I have to agree with Andreas Vetter. Firefox/java/flash should simply work, without manual intervention, on any gui installation (even x86_64). In my opinion, the decision to go with only OSS solutions - even though they don't work right - is likely to push end-users toward other distributions.
As it can be seen from my bugreports that avetter reopened I share the opinion that 32-bit Firefox should be shipped. Especially since software.opensuse.org has no "warning" about downloading the x86_64 version. However I don't think the decision has anything to do with ideology. When people install x86_64 they don't want 32-bit Firefox - they want to run full 64-bit so they can enjoy all the imaginatory performance improvements. Now we even have 64-bit OOo.. Flash works with nspluginwrapper with 64-bit Firefox - I don't know how many people actually come across java webapplets - personally I only need it for homebanking - but that of course is enough to make me install 32-bit Firefox - which I tested and "downgrading" ran without incident, except for me having to remove classpath-webplugin - and that issue will be fixed. I think that x86_64 users should expect some bumps here and there - but I also think that this should be noted on s.o.o .. we had that discussion before, but since these events show it's relevance I'm bringing it up again. It should somehow be communicated that x86 is the safest/simplest choice - also with x86_64 hardware. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org