On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@suse.de> wrote:
On Sun, 2011-06-19 at 19:23 +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Sunday 19 June 2011 18:23:08 Roman Bysh wrote:
On 06/19/2011 11:46 AM, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 06/19/2011 05:38 PM, Roman Bysh wrote:
Hello all,
I recently installed systemd-18-1.2.4 and systemd-sysvinit-18-1.2.4 on Tumbleweed. However, during the reboot the system stalled.
My system setup always has /usr in a separate partition. Is this the reason for the system stalling during the reboot?
I could not recover. Is there a way to recover from this?
Cheers!
Roman
yeap if you have followed the systemd thread separate /usr is not the best way to get it working actually. last time I fail with systemd I've booted with 1 at the end of the line, remove systemd then add sysv-init from local rpm But didn't know all the details, sorry
I wish I hadn't missed that thread. I didn’t know about adding the number "1" at the end of the kernel options line in Grub workaround. Good to know :-)
However, it's a good thing to remember when I'm on forums.opensuse.org.
Coming from SysV, I'm sure we're not the only ones using a separate /usr partition.
And, I'm wondering if it's a limitation, or temporary bug ;-)
systemd does not support a separate /usr partition. This was a decision of the devs - according to them there are lots of weird corner cases with /usr on a separate partition and you shouldn't want it.
See: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken
Systemd itself does not need anything in /usr, and does not miss any support for it by itself. But a lot stuff around systemd like D-Bus, and udev rules can't work reliably with a separate /usr.
With systemd the service dependencies get a lot more strict, and stuff that failed in that area in the past and didn't cause any major problems, causes problems now.
Some udev rules never really worked with a separate /usr, it was just that people who did that usually had no dependencies on devices like 3G modems, complexer NetworkManager setup, sound, ...
Separate /usr partitions will just need to be mounted from inside the initramfs in the future.
Kay
Kay, I don't see a discusion of separate /usr on: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Systemd http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Systemd_status Is there a openSUSE commitment to support that. And if so, what will the limitations be. It would nice to get that info onto one of the above pages. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org