On 7/27/21 8:11 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 27/07/2021 04.54, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 1:52 PM Carlos E. R. <carlos.e.r@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 26/07/2021 17.21, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
On Mon, 2021-07-26 at 09:50 -0500, Larry Len Rainey wrote:
Don't forget that root is not the only user that runs cron jobs. Your biggest SLES customer has 10 different cron users and has C programs that add and delete entries to cron to emulate the old IBM Series 1 applications that they have run since 1984 on Unix and now SLES 11.
Well, since this is an openSUSE mailing list, I have to point out:
openSUSE has no SLES customers.
openSUSE is a community, producing community-backed distributions (openSUSE Leap, openSUSE Tumbleweed, Kubic. MicroOS) and has no 'customers' (in the sense of paying and support 'entitled' customers). We call them simply users (who often become contributors by the fact that they help each other out and give each other support)
SUSE, the main sponsor of openSUSE, produces own products based on openSUSE's distributios and packages. One such product being SLES (SUSE Linux Enterprise Server) and SUSE has a customer base.
Not fully correct :-)
openSUSE Leap derives from SLES, not the other way round, and as such I expect it to continue having a cron daemon if SLES continues having it.
And Leap has pledged compatibility with SLES.
Tumbleweed is different and as you describe.
And Tumbleweed is the start of the journey for openSUSE Leap, as all Leap major releases begin life as a fork of a particular Tumbleweed snapshot. So our decisions in Tumbleweed still do matter for the next major SLE version, which becomes the next major Leap version.
I am aware: but I imagine that if SLES customers demand cron, SUSE will keep cron on their own for SLES even if factory doesn't. :-)
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