On Thu, 16 May 2013 10:16, Linda Walsh <suse@...> wrote:
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 15/05/13 09:02, Yamaban escribió:
Word of warning: Until you PROVE that E17 runs as fast and lean as LXDE on OLD (pentium1, 512mb) hardware, such a statement will get you scrores of enemies.
That is non-sense, I strongly object that we spend any sleep or human resources attempting to cater to the "pentium 1 , 512 mb" use-case. A phone probably has more computing power than that these days.
You don't understand the implications of that statement -- IT is not that it can run well on a [sic?] pentium 1? (rats ass) ...etc, but that it will run in a fraction of the resources as any other ..
If you have a heavily loaded machine or a server and you want lightweight pieces that are just a notable bit better than xterm, this fits the bill.
Another use case -- remote access where lightweight communications (not eyecandy as E17 has more of), can really make or break usability. I wouldn't be adverse to seeing E17 -- but I was part serious when I said let it compete and take the place of one of the big desktops -- ONLY on the 'demo' CD -- you'd get alot more bang for your buck if you eliminated one of those, but eliminating the low-resource/fastest one you will be changing people's perceptions of OpenSuse as not being "as able" to support the low end.
A common themed death knell among computer manufacturers was the retreat to the high end where they could get away with higher margins and more waste. I don't see that it would be that different in the open-linux environment...
I'll add to this: what runs more than "acceptable" on such small x86 hardware, has a more than decent chance run well on ARMv7, which, with respect to low-end tablets, low- to mid-end smartphones, and "le gasp" homeservers / mirco-computers (pogoplug, rasberry-pi, beagleboard, etc.). A prognosis: within max 5 years ARM (at least ARMv8 aka arm64) will be a first class member for linux distros. Now, do You want openSUSE to be one of the first to offer a full (incl. GUI [X11 / Wayland]), or one of the last, if at all. Not everybody has the money, room, or time to invest in ARM hw just for play right now, but such a "limited" Virtual PC is possible for most devs. - Yamaban.