Dear Richard, On Tue, 2023-04-18 at 17:49 +0200, Richard Brown wrote:
Hello everyone,
I wanted to write this mail to let everyone know the current status of SUSE's ALP (Adaptable Linux Platform) efforts and hopefully get the ball rolling with openSUSE making use of these efforts.
Many thanks for your mail explaining SUSE's approach to ALP and the consequences thereof for the openSUSE distro and its community at large. Over the last year or so, I have followed the discussions around ALP with great interest and have tried my best to understand, unfortunately in vain, the concrete ways by which this potential evolution of the distro would have an impact on me with respect to two of my most basic use-cases: * As a user: I buy/have a laptop/desktop, if needed reduce the Windows to its deserved 20 GiB disk-space, and install openSUSE on the rest. This is sometimes Tumbleweed, sometimes (very rarely these days, admittedly) Leap. How would my work-flow in downloading and installing the distro — currently involving downloading an iso image, dd-ing it to USB stick, booting up, and enjoying YaST's installer do its thing — change? For that matter, as a user how will this affect my 'zypper this', 'zypper that' (sounds awful, pardon me!) habits? * As a packager, though admittedly not of any core packages, I know how to write basic rpm specfiles, am familiar with the OBS branch, fix, and submit methods, as well as other related stuff that I have learnt over the years (thanks for many gurus in the oS community, of course) that allow me to submit packages to Factory/Leap occasionally. Never built a flatpak in my life, always felt they were some upstream devs' way of getting around downstream distro packagers and shipping to users directly. What will I need to learn and do so that I can keep contributing packages — in whatever guise — when openSUSE ALP starts to take shape? What tooling is there currently or will be in the future to help my transition from an rpm packager to a flatpak (or related) one? Or, is the idea that every oS ALP distro shall come with some upstream Flathub repository subscribed to, making distro packaging, at least for non-core packages (e.g. some science packages like octave) unnecessary? Apologies if this may have been made clear somewhere in this list already previously, but if so please be so kind as to point me towards it. Thanks again and best wishes, -- Atri (@badshah400) Sent from openSUSE Tumbleweed 20230417 on my laptop.