On 9/12/23 12:41, Michal Suchánek wrote:
On 9/12/23 12:17, Michal Suchánek wrote:
On 9/12/23 11:34, Michal Suchánek wrote:
There are additional tools that you can use - add zypper lock to not install the broken version, disable the purge-kernels service to keep all kernels until your disk fills with them.
Thanks
Michal Thanks for that info, however, I might not become aware that an issue exists until AFTER then newer kernel is installed and I don't think locking kernel-default would be a good idea. I also would not want to add more manual effort to cleanup older kernels that are no longer needed. The default configuration keeps a couple of earlier kernels, however. Then even after the new kernel has been installed you can go back to the
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 11:45:46AM -0400, Joe Salmeri wrote: previous one. Right but that does not address the issue where all the installed kernel versions are from the same X.Y version, which is why I will occasionally add a specific kernel to zypp.conf to make sure that it is kept. It does address the problem of keeping the previous version, whether it's the same X.Y version or not does not matter. When you find a
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 12:31:35PM -0400, Joe Salmeri wrote: problem you can go to the earlier version with which the problem was not observed.
It DOES matter if it is the same X.Y version because if one does frequent TW updates they could easily end up with all the kernel versions they have installed being the same X.Y version which has the problem. That as one of my key points as to why the LTS would be useful :-) to have for those cases. Fortunately the tumbleweed-cli history folders have the last 20 builds so most likely a version that is not from the same X.Y version could be found. Yes, I could lock the kernel or modify zypp.conf as I have been doing but the idea was that with the LTS version it would all be automatic. There does not seem to be any interest in this or anyone to maintain it so I'll just keep modifying zypp.conf multiversion when I need to keep one around. Not a major issue, just seemed like a nice feature that arch has over TW.
None of those solutions or even my manually modifying /etc/zypp/zypp.conf can provide the latest LTS kernel in TW because of what I explained in my earlier reply where a LTS kernel may have newer fixes than the last LTS kernel version seen in TW because TW moved to a newer kernel version.
It's not like I have had lots of kernel issues, but having the latest LTS kernel would be a quick and easy way to verify whether a problem is kernel related or not and having the kernel-lts package would make it so that if a user installed that package they would not have to worry about it being purged and it would also be the latest version of the LTS kernel that is available. There is the Tumbleweed archive with historical kernels which you can install to test if the problem is caused by the kernel long after it has been removed from Tumbleweed if you really need to. Are you talking about the historical builds that are used by tumbleweed-cli located here
https://download.opensuse.org/history/ Which have 6.4 kernels while Tumbleweed has 6.5
Also see https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/tiwai:/kernel:/ Thanks very much for that link, I see that there are lots of kernel versions available there.
-- Regards, Joe