Benji Weber schreef:
On 08/04/2008, Stephan Kulow <coolo@novell.com> wrote:
Sorry Clayton, but this is opensuse-_factory_ - so I'm interested in feedback on latest development only. And I want to know concrete error messages of specific problems, where $smart handles this more user friendly.
The conflict messages and suggestions are much better in Factory. Suggestions such as
http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/b/110_conflict.png
are much easier to understand than before, ignoring the confusing use of "uninstallable" to mean "not installable".
I could give an example of the opposit, if yast would be usable for me atm, but due to lack of a provider for libzypp.so.406, i can not install yast2-qt-pkg-2.16.29-10, without the plugin, the gui doesn't work. (have not tried cli version yet..) ( Problem: nothing provides libzypp.so.406()(64bit) needed by yast2-qt-pkg-2.16.29-10.x86_64 Solution 1: not install yast2-qt-pkg-2.16.29-10.x86_64 Choose the above solution using '1' or cancel using 'c' [1/A]: ) Zypper output.
Still, would it not be better to pre-select the resolution that is likely to be the best one? Leaving the option to change it. e.g. vendor change of a dependency is usually better than not fulfilling a user's request.
+1
I have not checked whether the vendor change question is still handled as a conflict, as there are not any packman packages available yet for 11.0. I didn't really like this behaviour. While Vendor-Sticky is good at preventing system breakage when users blindly upgrade all packages, also enforcing it when solving dependencies for manual user selections is not good in my opinion. In 10.3, if a user selects libxine from packman, he/she will get conflicts because of the vendor change of dependencies of xine. This should not happen in my opinion, by selecting a packman package he/she has decided to change vendor of that package /and all its dependencies/.
Correct, +1
-- Benjamin Weber
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