Reading Felix-Nicolai's blog post, I'd like to get your input on the following statement from him: I believe that openSUSE is supposed to be a community based and community driven product. While many devs work for Novell and do great work, openSUSE does also depend on its many users. So they should get a hear. It is not OK to only raise this issue on a factory mailinglist - a mailinglist a regular user will never see. * factory was setup as list for future development of the openSUSE distribution. Why is that not working? Where would you expect to have general discussion about the direction of the distribution? * openSUSE is community based and community driven - but we have Novell engineers doing engineering work with limited time and resources. Community means not only discussion but also contribution - and I've heard many requests about KDE3 and KDE4 but so far only saw Carlos stepping up and saying "KDE3 is so important for me that I create a KDE3 LiveCD for openSUSE 11.0". It's good to get input and help with prioritization but how can we get more people working on KDE to maintain KDE3 and to improve KDE4? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126