Hello, Am Mittwoch, 14. Juni 2023, 21:30:18 CEST schrieb Richard Brown:
On 2023-06-14 21:21, Felix Miata wrote:
<https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854169> 2013-12-06
You do understand what that bug shows right?
Yes, I do - see below.
10 years ago I screwed up a test by doing a zypper up instead of a dup
The solution was to use zypper dup
I was wrong to do an up 10 years ago and anyone is wrong to do it today.
Just because you did something wrong some years ago doesn't mean that *everybody* who uses zypper up is doing it wrong. Sure, "dup" is the recommended way, and correct in 99% of the cases. That leaves 1% of special cases where "up" makes sense. For example, if someone really wants to update a specific package without upgrading the whole system - which is a very valid approach if you want to check if this package fixes a specific issue. In this case, you really don't want 142 more packages upgraded that might randomly influence the result. Maybe "up" should require a --i-know-what-i-am-doing switch, but claiming that it is _always_ wrong is just, well, wrong. BTW: Reading the bug mentioned above, you were wrong twice: You not only used "up", but you also used an additional repo, which is another thing you regularly state is wrong! So please slap yourself for doing that! Oh, and please stop thinking in binary mode. The world out there is not always true/false, but often something in between. Regards, Christian Boltz -- Actually the _real_ "minimal package set" is having no package at all because having no package at all resolves all dependencies of the packages and there is no package left someone might claim to be unneeded. [Robert Schiele in opensuse-factory]