Hi, since I didn't got any answer I am sending this to factory too and just try to be straightforward. There are so many forum entries about openSUSE 12.1 and Kmail 4.7 in particular where people are complaining about it. Many openSUSE-KDE users who are no experts might think that openSUSE is "poor" if they ship such a buggy default mail client like this. And like I mentioned I think KDE users are the biggest user base of openSUSE and openSUSE is often recommend if people want to use KDE. Please don't get me wrong, I am not blaming, just don't make this mistake. I think incidents like this are the reasons for people to change the distribution. And it is really hard to lose a certain reputation. Not a long time ago I was asked if zypper is now better working then in openSUSE 10 because they had such a bad experience and they had never tried openSUSE again since then. So please if Kmail 4.4 still works with 12.1 use it. I shouldn't even be much of a maintenance case since it should be stable and is still maintained for 11.4. For experimental people there could be a separate repository shipping kmail 4.7 or people use the state of the art KDE repository. Tim On 11/07/2011 10:18 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Monday 07 Nov 2011 09:00:16 Tim wrote:
Hi,
I have upgrade my system yesterday from 11.4 to 12.1 after some testing and most seem to work fine but I haven't tested KMail. I thought after it was delayed for so long it should work.
But after starting it the migration failed and the program crashed. I thought this might have something to do that I had a newer version of Kmail for some time (from Tumbleweed) so I removed all akonadi, kmail, kontact and so on settings and directories in my home directory and only restored the kmail folder and the kmailrc. "Could not load the resource folder" or something like that? Message Box 1 after the migration: "Migration to KMail 2 failed. In case you want to try again, run 'kmail-migrator --interactive' manually."
After confirming the last message box I got another one in Kmail: "KMail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now. The error was: Failed to fetch the resource collection." After confirming that Kmail vanishes except of the mail account creation dialog.
After that the automatic kmail import still failed so I used the kmail-migrator which seems to work fine but if you start Kmail you have your folders but in them are only a few mails which can't really be accessed. Kmail seems to load forever. Bug reports please!
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728755 I couldn't confirm the problem with the manual migration because Kmail doesn't work after it anymore too. Is there any documentation which files are needed for a successful import. Just the kmail directory in apps and the kmailrc doesn't seem to be enough for the mails.
And even the imap folders shown only some mails.
After running kmail-migrator Akonadi and Mysql had a high cpu usage which seems to have something to do with an error posted in console during running kmail-migrator. Please let us know the error message from the migrator in the bug report
So do you seriously want people to upgrade or reinstall with a home directory from 11.4 and get all their mails messed up? Not everyone does a backup even if they should. We're writing some KMail specific release notes to smooth the upgrade.
I am not sure if the affected people are really reading this but ...
I mean even if there are not so many Kmail users it worked most of the time for me in the past. Not to mention that it is not so easy to import all your data from this Akonadi mix.
So isn't it possible to ship the "old" Kmail from 4.6 instead, like it was done in the past by the KDE team? Some bugs are not a problem imho but it really seems to be utterly broken and according to forum entries and the IRC other people seem to have the same problem. No, unfortunately. We looked at this early on in the 12.1 cycle. In 11.4 we shipped the "old" Kmail from 4.4 with KDE 4.6, which sort of worked. Enough small changes in the runtime behaviour of kdepimlibs (while maintaining the promised binary compatibility of the platform) have accumulated since 4.4 that KMail 4.4 runs less reliably when using kdepimlibs 4.7 than KMail 4.7.
I know and it worked fine. And I am not the only one with problems: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/pre-release-beta/... I have also asked on IRC and people were talking about problems too. So I would suggest to ship Kmail 4.4, if it wouldn't be such a huge effort to maintain the old release. It can't be worse than what people might experiencing when upgrading/installing and trying to use it. I mean we are talking about the default openSUSE KDE mail client. And afaik more openSUSE user are using KDE than Gnome.
We've got a thread on opensuse-kde@opensuse.org specifically for KMail/Kontact, please contribute specific issues so we can fix them in a prompt online update there.
Will
Thanks for your help and let me know if you need any additional logs or information. Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org