On Thursday 10 of December 2009, Egbert Eich wrote:
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 05:00:51PM +0100, Lubos Lunak wrote:
Too bad it has never allowed the configuration of the keyboard layout in KDM.
This is not an openSUSE problem, though. It's more an issue of the upstream projects not watching each other.
I know that in X.Org fundamental changes often just happen without much discussion or announcement. The nuisance of an developers IRC channel has certainly contributed to that. Even the people working on X.Org here are sometimes caught by surprise.
Still in this particular instance here I was strongly believing that someone in the KDE community had taken note since the move away from a static configuration file is not something that has happened behind closed doors.
Taking note and doing something is quite different. As I expect it's similar in X.Org you should know that certain parts of each project may be slower in getting updated (or even rot). It is not unusual that regardless of whether somebody notices or not that it takes a while to update something in reaction to changes from the outside, for many reasons: Nobody noticing, nobody caring, nobody finding it important enough, developers not willing to install unstable software, developer using distro XYZ and not caring what openSUSE does with its distro tools, whatever. E.g. for 11.1 we had to finish KDE support for PolicyKit, because the upstream version was not usable, and for 11.2 there was nothing at all for the backwards-incompatible PolKit. It's simply sometimes up for the integrators, i.e. the distribution, to patch holes. Even though it's theoretical up to upstream, in practice we should know too.
During the session. Not so well if X e.g. decides that a great default setup for dualhead desktop machine is cloned mode and one has to go for xinitrc or do the change manually
No, you do the change once (in the desktop tool, this will remember your settings and redo them next time.)
Then you know the KDE tool better than I do, since that doesn't work for me.
But Lubos, why are you complaining here and rant at me? It has never been my suggestion that every desktop is reinventing the wheel and comes along with its own incarnation of every tool.
Sorry, you're the messenger. And I'm not complaining about the suggestion for every desktop to roll their own, as much as I don't like that, but I'm now complaining about those desktops not having been told in time.
Again, I'm sorry, but I thought that in the huge KDE upstream community someone had an eye on such things.
So the X.Org community does have someone to keep an eye on things that happen elsewhere? Rhetorical question, I don't believe the answer to be yes. -- Lubos Lunak KDE developer -------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org Lihovarska 1060/12 tel: +420 284 084 672 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org