Le jeudi 12 mars 2015, 20:48:15 Luca Beltrame a écrit :
(originally posted on opensuse-kde for initial discussion)
Hello openSUSE KDE users and contributors,
Hello,
First and foremost: testing! We've been running the KF5 based desktop for a while but the team is small, we need more eyes looking for potential issues.
I switched recently (a bit more than one month I think) to OpenSuse (mostly to test Plasma 5), and I am using it all day long on my tumbleweed workstation system and I am very happy with it. I do not use a lot of KDE/Plasma applications, mostly konsole, kate from time to time and kontact and before this I wasn't using KDE, kate, kontact... so I won't help much with the missing features, but here is my feedback. First I do not have any problem with the clock, the correct time is displayed on my system (fr_FR). :) At first I tried to install all the *5 apps that were available but I had to switch back to kate (kate4) as kdevelop4 has a requirement on kate and kate5 does not provide it: ---------8<----------------------------------------------------- sudo zypper in --details kate5 Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... Problem: kdevelop4-4.7.1-1.1.x86_64 requires kate, but this requirement cannot be provided Solution 1: Following actions will be done: deinstallation of kdevelop4-plugin-ruby-1.6.60+20141111-3.9.x86_64 deinstallation of kate-4.14.3-1.3.x86_64 deinstallation of kdevelop4-plugin-ruby-lang-1.6.60+20141111-3.9.noarch deinstallation of kdevelop4-4.7.1-1.1.x86_64 deinstallation of kate-python-plugins-4.14.3-1.3.x86_64 deinstallation of kdevelop4-plugins-php-1.7.1-1.1.x86_64 deinstallation of kdevelop4-plugin-python-1.7.1-1.1.x86_64 deinstallation of kdevelop4-plugin-cppsupport-4.7.1-1.1.x86_64 deinstallation of kdevelop4-lang-4.7.1-1.1.noarch deinstallation of kdevelop4-plugin-python-lang-1.7.1-1.1.noarch Solution 2: do not install kate5-14.12.3-1.1.x86_64 Solution 3: do not install kate5-14.12.3-1.1.x86_64 Solution 4: break kdevelop4-4.7.1-1.1.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/3/4/c] (c): ---------8<----------------------------------------------------- I also add some segfaults when using kate5 and the vi-like keys. (everything is OK with kate 4), but I didn't test the latest kate5 builds. I also use kmail with some my two IMAP accounts (work and home) and often have troubles when synchronizing the emails: some tasks never ends, and I do not receive new mails, I have to often close kmail, and stop akonadi unsing akonadictl, it is quite annoying. On my Arch system I am synchronizing my IMAP accounts locally using offlineimap and then kmail is pointed to the local Maildir directories and everything is OK (on TW offlineimap refuses to connect to the SSL mails servers, I didn't had the time to debug this...). I also had some troubles with ksshaskpass5 and kwalletd5, ksshaskpass5 was not able to interact with kwalletd5 (it was asking for the ssh key passphrase at each session opening), so I am now using ksshaskpass (4). I do not know if it is related, but my x509 certificate and gpg passwords are not saved into kwallet, and I have to type them from time to time when signing/crypting emails, which is also a bit annoying. (I played a bit with the forget key timeout but that's not a real solution). (I did some tests and deleted/recreated the default wallet multiple times so I might have added some problems while trying to fix some...) I also check the systemd-analyze output and sddm (OpenSuse branding) it the most long service: -----------8<------------------------------------------------ systemd-analyze blame | head 1min 30.224s display-manager.service 28.266s purge-kernels.service 4.584s wicked.service 3.208s systemd-udev-settle.service 1.256s mnt-home.mount 504ms vboxdrv.service 440ms apparmor.service 280ms udisks2.service 252ms var-tmp.mount 246ms var-spool.mount -------8<---------------------------------------------------- I am running a bi Xeon with 12 GB of RAM on SSD (and using the nvidia proprietary driver), so the main problem should not be my workstation power. I did just installed the upstream sddm branding but I did not yet test it. The last problem I have is that I did not succeed in installing the tiller Kwin script, neither from the GUI nor from the plasma5 branch of the git repo. To be exact, both installation did succeed but the script is not present in the KWin scripts part of the Control Center. But if I search for it using the "Get new Script" tool, it is shown as installed. Also please note that at first I added the KDE_Frameworks5 and KDE_Extra repositories for Tumbleweed/Factory but I disabled them and I am now using exclusively the KDE/Plasma5 software from the main tumbleweed repositories, here are the repositories I am using: -------8<---------------------------------------------------- sudo zypper lr -E 4 | devel_languages_ruby_extensions | Ruby Extensions (openSUSE_Tumbleweed) 5 | devel_tools_building | Tools for building software (openSUSE_Factory) 6 | home_DarkPlayer_Pipelight | Pipelight (openSUSE_Tumbleweed) 7 | http-download.opensuse.org-68b66db9 | home:bitshuffler 8 | nvidia | nvidia 10 | repo-non-oss | repo-non-oss 11 | repo-oss | repo-oss 12 | repo-update | repo-update 13 | utilities | utilities 14 | virtualbox | VirtualBox for openSUSE 12.3 -------8<----------------------------------------------------
Luca Beltrame on behalf of the openSUSE community KDE Team
Thanks a lot of your work, congratulation for all your team, I am very happy to use Plasma5 on OpenSuse, I am eager to see it becoming the default desktop as it will be used, integrated and debugged by a lot of users. Thanks a lot also to the folks working on tumbleweed and OpenSuse, its good to have another rolling release version of a strong and stable binary distribution, it is nice to be able to use something else than the usual archlinux from time to time ;) Cheers, Baptiste -- Baptiste Grenier \,,/_[-_-]_\,,/