more information concerning this problem from var/log/warn ___________________________________________ Hello openSuSE; This is my first time on this list so it may be the wrong list. I have 11.2 upgraded from 11.1. I have set "donn" with audio in /etc/groups. Amarok indicates it is playing on its bar graph. Call up "kmix" or "gamix" and no slide knobs are seen on either. Yast2 >hardware> sound test shows that the soud works. Goto KDE4 and the sound fails. As far as I know under 11.1 (it worked) and a upgrqde to 11.2 it fails. Anyone have a clue as to why kmix fails 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb@windstream.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb@arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316