On 21/06/2022 23.52, Felix Miata wrote:
Carlos E. R. composed on 2022-06-21 17:18 (UTC-0400):
IF he and the devs and maintainers want feedback from users, better he posts where users are. Proven by the fact that users has not responded to his survey.
Logical observation.
That's all I am saying. I'm not asking Lubos to subscribe to the users list and converse there. But if he is making a survey and wants users feedback, he'd better announce that survey where users lurk. It does not matter what you, or he, think about the users list. That's irrelevant.
Catch-22. To post in users@ one must be a users@ subscriber, like all the opensuse lists AFAICT. Maybe those using @opensuse.org or @suse.* addresses shouldn't need to be subscribed. Is this already the case? How would one find out? https://lists.opensuse.org/ redirects to https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/, where there is no apparent mention that there are any rules for using lists, with overabundant whitespace.
No, it is not the case. It might be on some list, though. But you can do a "nomail" subscription.
IMO, opensuse.org has too many lists, which means if someone wants to announce something that most if not all should see, in needs to be announced on all the busy lists, if not all lists. If it's not important enough for multiple lists, and not clearly specific to one list only, then announce should be the only place, not project. It's sensible, so should not need to be a published "rule", or chastised by yet another mega-thread.
But not all users are subscribed to the announce list. It is the same issue, you have to announce to users where the users are. In this case, AFAIK, there was no post in the announcement list; at least I have been unable to find it. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.3 (Legolas))