Hello, Am Freitag, 25. Januar 2019, 18:08:16 CET schrieb Vinzenz Vietzke:
Am Freitag, 25. Januar 2019, 17:56:09 CET schrieb Axel Braun:
What are our options? - first of all, we may ask Phoronix to disclose methodology and default setup for all distributions. Not even the question was ansered if the distros run a DE or just text mode
From what I've read in this discussion, my guess is that my (non-random) signature answers most of that ;-) and it's probably valid for all distributions even if it mentions a specific one.
- we could try to verify ourself - we could optimize default setup
There's also the option to implement something like https://github.com/hmlb/phpunit-vw ;-)) Also, maybe getting our JeOS tested by Phoronix would give us a better boot time rank ;-) OK, enough jokes for one mail.
Next to technical, we could question in public the correctness of the results.
So basically you want to do free advertising for Phoronix? Sounds like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect ;-) Besides that - we'll need to have good technical explanations about why we think these results are not correct, and given that it isn't even clear what exactly was tested - good luck in responding to these "results" ;-) (quotes intentional)
I don't think approaching Michael Larabel might lead to any success. Which is okay for me but leaves us with the problematic public reception of oS.
Therefore it would be good to communicate technical decisions and reasons in a more accessible way. What comes up to my mind is some series of blog posts, explaining things and interviewing developers briefly.
Good idea, but please ignore the whole discussion we just have, and especially ignore the website that does these strange[tm] performance tests. These articles should simply show how good openSUSE is and that we have good reasons for our decisions and know what we are doing.
All in all, openSUSE is just keeping it's good work way too much under the hood when it comes to "Jack User", as you say.
So, to not just demand for progress but also to step forward: I'm totally willing to work on that issues, to create some kind of plan. Anyone willing to join?
I'm not sure if I'm a good author since I prefer technical speech over marketing speech. However, If you need someone to explain why wasting a second during boot for loading AppArmor profiles is worth the time, I can probably provide some answers. That all said - I wonder how many bugs could be fixed in the time everybody spends on reading this discussion ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz PS: non-random signature, as promised above - and as an extra service, I'll add a translation -- Dabei müsste er nur seine Entern-Taste gangbar bekommen, Debian lauffähig im Grundgerüst bekommt man ja beinahe automatisiert installiert, wenn man ein Weizenkorn auf die Entertaste malt und ein Huhn vor seinen Rechner setzt. [Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner in suse-linux über die Debian-Installation] translated: You only have to make sure your enter key works. Doing a working Debian default installation can almost be automated if you draw a wheat grain on the enter key and put a chicken in front of the computer. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org