Hello, On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Michal Kubecek wrote:
On Saturday 09 of August 2014 06:09:14 Robert Schweikert wrote:
So, my appeal to all. Please stop the systemd bashing, it leads nowhere. If there is a bug in systemd that annoys you, file the bug or go fix it, be constructive.
I'm not bashing! I did months ago. But I found that site with a summary of systemd's (design) problems and which shows possible alternatives to systemd. Stating the fact, that I seriously consider jumping ship is not bashing. If you want me try bashing systemd, ask nicely, and I might ;) Though I'd have to refresh some stuff.
If because of 1 in the 7000+ packages in Factory the openSUSE distribution no longer meets your needs or your stability expectations then so be it.
The problem is it's not one package.
Exactly.
In the name of systemd, the whole system is being redesigned and reworked in order to make the other options stop working. I've found numerous cases where changes have been done to other packages that don't help systemd and systemd systems at all but only break non-systemd systems. And then I keep reading these "if you want to provide an alternative, you are welcome to do so" appeals. It's frustrating and I really feel like I'm being mocked on purpose.
Switching to systemd thus far basically excluded all alternatives. Where's the sysvinit in Factory? Exactly. That's the design of systemd. Squeeze out alternatives. -dnh, I haven't read this loong thread yet but if I will have a look at systemd-shim, eudev etc. I just won't package that for oS alone but rather switch distro. As much as I've invested in SuSE. -- "World domination. Fast" (By Linus Torvalds) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org