Hello, On Feb 1 13:02 Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Wednesday 2017-02-01 10:36, Johannes Meixner wrote:
I like continuously reported info messages[...] As long as such messages are continuously reported it is obvious "that thingy is still doing something". When it fails one can directly see its last messages regardless whether or not one understands the meaning. [...] I do not necessarily mean a full screen of such messages. Only one or a few status message lines (at the bottom) are perfectly sufficient as user information.
That sounds just exactly like what plymouth is doing. The progress bar is the message. It meets the criteria of "not occupying the entire screen". It meets the criteria that while "that thingy is still doing something", it will update. And when it fails or does nothing (hello overly long systemd timeouts), one can see its last (textual) message with ESC, whether one understands the meaning of the text or not.
You left out an important part from what I had written which makes it look different compared to what I meant and a progress bar is no info messages. I had also written: ----------------------------------------------------------- ... SUSE and Fedora and Ubuntu show basically empty screens - sometimes even with some meaningless animated graphical stuff that tells exactly nothing ... ----------------------------------------------------------- Additionally: Let the user do this or that (e.g. pressing whatever key or so) to get some meaningful output on a basically empty screen is not what I meant. FYI: I cannot make statements what is good or bad by default for openSUSE users because I think I am not a "normal openSUSE user". (I know how to change it to make it work o.k. for my own needs.) Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX GmbH - GF: Felix Imendoerffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton - HRB 21284 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org