Am Montag, 27. Juli 2015, 13:41:31 schrieb ianseeks:
Also, we have YaST->System->Services Manager for that... ;)
I've not used that for ages, it looks different to the last time i used it. I was looking for a tool to possibly show me a graphical tree representation of the systemd config with all dependencies and i mistakenly thought kcm_systemd did that (although it helps).
You're probably looking for "systemctl-analyze plot".
I think it'll be a hard decision to decide what is important regarding systems settings but i would advocate that anything to do with systems settings should be installed automatically if that system i.e. cron, systemd etc is installed and active
Well, cron and systemd is installed and active on every openSUSE system, and you cannot check the "active" state at package installation time anyway. So this would mean, unconditionally install them automatically. The question rather is whether users in general need it or would profit from it. Everybody who wants to have it can install it manually. And just because systemd or cron is installed and running, doesn't mean every user needs that KDE configuration module (and to repeat, for the former one, there's the YaST module too that is installed by default). As long as kcm_systemd is not part of the distribution, it is no option to be installed automatically anyway. Regarding kcron, I think it might even confuse (in particular newbie) users. I can imagine bug reports like this: "I configured VLC to be started at 20:00 every day, but it doesn't work!". But, that's not my decision, and I don't really have a strong opinion about it either. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org