Is this obsolete since the upgrade to 4.7? It was still installed here, and with a fresh user login, KDE got half started, then just stopped, hanging X. Escape required remote ssh login, or reboot via power button. There was no objection to zypper rm kdebase4-session, so I proceeded. Then the desktop proceeded to start, then the screen went black, with nothing but a mouse pointer. So I reinstalled kdebase4-session, but still KDE won't finish startup. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org