All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting Meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Attendees Sarah, DimStar, Lubos, guillaumeg, ddemaio, rbrown, DocB,maxlin ## Leap cisco openh264 discussion from last Thursday: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-openh264-call-20221117 Code submission deadline for any SLES 15 SP5 related features (does not apply for 15SP4:Update etc), as well as Leap 15.5 Beta code-drop deadline is on January 25th 2023. Lubos will send announcement after the call. 15.5 Feature tracking at https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issues Data from Workshop regarding Consuming Community software in ALP https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:ALP/Workgroups/Community/Workshops/Consumig... Leap Micro 5.3 GA was on 17th Nov 2022 https://twitter.com/openSUSE/status/1592778626537488384 Ongoing: SUSE Open Source policy review, SUSE Empoyees can participate https://opensource.suse.com/suse-open-source-policy (public facing url) I'd be happy for any feedback from community in form of e.g. email, since the github project SUSE/open-source-policy is private and limited to SUSE Employees as issues might contain discussion regarding confidential topics. ## openSUSE Tumbleweed openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 136 failed 5 unresolvable (last week: 11 / 5) https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz * TW queue kept small: currently < 40 * KDE Frameworks 5.100.0 * Systemd 252.1 * Staging:G YaST is broken with new rubygem-rspec-* - https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204871 * Staging:N: experiments with openssl-3 as default: main blocked are nodejs1[89], openssh and ibmtss * util-linux package layout changes (the -systemd-split no longer works in new versions, but u-l is part of the vminstall setup; idea is to get a u-l-mini, installing the OBS-needed binaries to a different location (e.g. /usr/lib/build/bootstrap/bin) Topic of x86-64-v2 lkocman: ALP plans to finish v2 rebuild of SUSE:ALP until end of the weekend as far as I understand. Dominique: Need help from community to take care of x86_64-v1 builds. lkocman: I really worry about openSUSE being too "space hungry" for mirrors. We already receive many complains for Leap. Rich: That's fine, then lets not bother with this legacy stuff then :) Dominique: data will be stored in /ports, mirrors can decide to filter it Guillaume: different repos mean update path broken (for V1), right? Dominque: absolutely valid point The symlink handling from ports to primary (now we do a opposite direction) lkcman: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade#Note_about_ports_(non_intel_archi...) text-only errata equivalent for x86_64-v1 EOL in primary repos: Text only update (our LICENSE handling hack) would be a nice notification to users. Richard: perhaps we could have a package just for the notification. Dominique: one-click installer might accidentally migrate v1 machines to v2. lkocman: sending an open call for "who's willing to maintain v1 builds" to factory@lists.opensuse.org. Dominque: this has to be monitored by community, current openSUSE release team does not have capacity to oversee everything for v1. Dominique can reactively help if needed. lkocman: please recall how many volunteers we've had for Armv7 and how many people are currently doing the work. Agremeent tracking to go forward for v2 project preparation: sarah, lkocman, guillaume, ## Richard (MicroOS) Desktop-GNOME: The Road to Release: transactional-update-notifier packaged and under testing Bugs under investigation/being fixed Bug 1205108 New: Redundant program for system monitoring on Gnome osinfo-db still doesn't recognise MicroOS as a seperate distribution - debates with upstream ongoing General MicroOS Stuff in Staging: conmon 2.1.5 podman 4.3.1 slirp4netns 1.2.0 Considering FDE by default now single-password-entry full disk encryption is in Tumbleweed Trying to decide if it's a better approach than a fully vertified boot/OS variant of MicroOS, which wouldn't use encryption, but would then encrypt user/system data (eg /home, /var, etc) Please join the Telegram/Matrix group and give your opinion. KDE MicroOS Desktop is still suffering from a significant lack of contribution. Please join the Telegram/Matrix group and dive in with helping. ## Max 15.5 * Whitelist lua54 and rage in Backports, PR got merged, but rage part will be reverted because this impacting rage-encryption in SLE(under discussion still) * Created a page for the deleted SLE pacakge while 15.5 development, this might helps packagehub-subpackage module's management, https://github.com/nilxam/leap_development/blob/master/data/deleted_sle_pack... lkocman: should I move it under openSUSE organization? max: maybe no needed, the only visitor should be packagehub guys, thye need to decide should the package add to packagehub-subpacakge ot nor, I did tell Wolfgang about this page * More openQA test scenarios need to disable RNG device after through test fails, created a PR to opensuse-jobgroup Build stats(x86_64): 24 build fails, 2 unresolvables(last week: 24 build fails, 2 unresolvables) Max I've seen quite some kernel related submissions in openSUSE:Leap:15.5 max: two KMP package update, pending for devel project review, others were merged ## Guillaume - Arm Tumbleweed: * Rolling * appx WSL image now builds in Factory:ARM (tested manually on a Windows-on-Arm machine). This can be uploaded as part of some "preview" program as a 1st step. * NVIDIA: tester with aarch64 server and NVIDIA card wanted - Proprietary drivers are now available for aarch64 (only G06): https://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/tumbleweed/ - New opengpu driver also available in OBS: https://build.opensuse.org/project/monitor/X11:Drivers:Video Leap: * appx WSL images (Leap 15.4 and 15.5) work ALP: * SUSE:ALP: - Still waiting for new images to add back aarch64 to openQA ## Sarah - s390 Tumbleweed * No readable fonts: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1205585 -> It can be, that it is a Mesa bug. * git tests have broken the build for git on s390x, but there is no error output. It is working on Fedora (upstream hint): https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204762 / https://lore.kernel.org/git/CAN0heSoc+jKxseyyR-=8+ATc8rdY5UyFWZPepaQsGn9m+Hp... -> Workaround of disabling tests is giving a succeeded result and upstream discussion in progress Leap: * openQA tests have been failing because log files were not uploaded. okurz has created a PR for it at the end of last week: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/119713, which works only with a single running test * problem exists continuously and is also transferred to openSUSE Tumbleweed: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/120405 ## Doug * FOSDEM * Bus is reservered * Beer is ordered (labels needing to be ordered) * Connected Adrian with VollaPhone * Looking at deploying of My GNU Health * TSP * Thanks to LCP on debugging * First process had some minor issues, but were addressed in second request * oSC23 * Plan to open up CfP * May 26 - 28 ## Dirk Not available * still feeding RISCV related fixes into Factory/ALP, nothing important to share * python-kiwi 9.24.49 includes profile validation fix for riscv64 arch name, but will also change how containers are built, on its way to Factory ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling Not available The workshop regarding Package HUB equivalent for ALP Lubos will schedule a call with wolfgang and Scott to ensure that they're in loop for the High Level requirements document. https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:ALP/Workgroups/Community/Workshops/Consumig... Package Hub for SLE-15-SP5 product definition added and SCC is currently picking it up so it will be ready for testing with the beta of SLE-15-SP5 ## Maintenance team (Marcus or Maurizio (m4u)) Not available Configuration setup problem for Maintenance of Leap 15.4 maintenance updates / openQA Marcus regarding Leap 15.4 Image respin - package set will change, we do need to refresh the packagelist Lubos to talk to Jan Stehlik, we can't put all on Marcuses shoulder. https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-20221110-maintenance-disc... Need to setup Leap Micro 5.3 (don't have time this week) * Pending Leap Micro 5.3 maint-setup ffmpeg - possible file conflict on the next update, no idea how to avoid vendor switching at the moment. Removing the patch on the openSUSE side (that might contain security fixes) or releasing update on the packman side could fix the issue. Lubos to give Marcus some working contact for the team. Lubos: I was asked to provide requirements for the QA team. Mostly for the GA/current release but also for the update. Lubos will make wiki with requirements (something like maintenance plan perhaps). Marcus will review it. ## Adrian - OBS Not available Axel: there were some cleaning activities in OBS, to determine inactive users and related unmaintained projects. Is there anything going on? Adrian: the script checks a project or a package that has no changes for more than one year. It will create a delete request, that can be deleted. If there is no reaction there will be auto-acceptance in few days. Package can be always manually submitted back if the DR was missed. Users will not be deactivated. Adrian: User cleanup would have to be discussed with IDP team (SUSE IT). OBS is just a consumer. Lubos will create a request to suggest this action in Service desk. Adrian: if the user never logged in into OBS, that's probably a cleanup that could stay in touch. ## Open Floor some members might not be able to join due to conflict with ALP OpenFloor meeting. We might want to give them heads up to provide information in etherpad before the meeting starts