A general question, and a whinge, about being asked to test a release of something like RC2 of oS. When such a request is made, what exactly is being asked of the user? I mean, how is it possible to test, for example, something like vlc, which is something essential to my needs, when not all of the dependencies can be satisfied? I can play BluRay DVDs on 12.3 - but there is no way I can do that in 13.1 RC2 (or any other earlier issues of 13.1). So *my* "testing" will result in saying that RC2 is a failure and I would tell others (if they asked) that oS 13.1 is to be avoided. Report this as a "bug"? To whom? And why? It works perfectly well in 12.3 so why shouldn't it work as well in 13.1? (Perhaps it would if the correct repos were available and synchronised with developments?) Or how can I try out some of the games when the GAMES repo in YaST is unavailable? I enjoy playing PySol - but this is not available. However, having some ability to fend for myself, I installed the game from the its source site. It works very well - but it is not quite the same as in 12.3 so somewhere, someone fiddles with PySolFC when it gets on to openSUSE. But who (and why)? (One other anomaly - and I don't know who to direct this question to, sorry: I and my wife also enjoy playing Freecell which is included in the application called 'aisleriot'. Irrespective of what is done to make it open in full screen mode it doesn't. But more annoying is that suddenly (for 13.1) clicking on a card to move it to a new location results in the card/stack of cards becoming invisible and only reappearing when it/they is/are moved to the new location.) 13.1 is now 5 days (my time/date) away from being GM - but not all the repos are available which will contain the final files for GA. Why aren't they available for activation in YaST in RC2? So, what is actually being asked of users when they are asked to, "Test. Test. Test!"? Or is this request just a parrot-like request because it is something which is "The done thing"? BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.11.2 & kernel 3.11.6-3 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 OC 2GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org