All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting Meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Attendees bittin, guillaumeg, lkocman, DimStar, rbrown, ddemaio, DocB, maxlin ## Leap First ALP Community WG meeting was yesterday https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20220524 I'd like to consider doing a talk about recommended communication for other groups (wiki/blogpost) etc. SLES 15 SP4 ppc64le received GM acceptance letter, s390x not yet (10:00am CEST was deadline), but it was communicated there is no reason yet. Leap Micro related - ignite{,-stage}.opensuse.org requested in https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/111452 SUSE will host 5 El Rancho SUSE students for a summer job with SUSE support. They will be in Provo Utah for a one-week onboarding June 20 - 24. The agreement is to have a talk about how to get engaged in openSUSE. The expectation is something like a 20minutes talk and 10 minutes for questions (we'll have to jump-start an inclusive conversation, of that I'm sure). Contact person is Leopoldo M. Since we've already had a group of students on our call, I think we can iterate on that (invite people), introduce perhaps edu@lists.opensuse.org, and show them easy ways how to start contributing. Is somebody from the community interested in the mentorship of students? If so let us know. This could be mentorship on projects/thesis, field trips, or virtual discussions with parents to ensure support. Feel free to share your preferred contact with Leopoldo.Macias@suse Internal URL for SUSE employees https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=9nqh91wcNkqqi_W-JHqkutS0... zdup to 15.4 discussion with Anna Santi at 12-12:30 CEST today. Data from MirrorCache could be available next week (would help hotstuff list generation) ## openSUSE Tumbleweed openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 429 failed, 14 (build in progress, number incomplete) unresolvable (last week: 464/22) https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz * NetworkManager was split in smaller chunks to allow smaller dep chains, depending on the modules used. The original split was a bit too optimistic and split even wifi support away, which the main package recommended. systems without recommends lost wifi (MicroOS and users switching because thet don't want texlive). The -wifi part is being folded back into the main package (should be snapshot 0526 latest) * Kernel 5.18 is in the queue. So far I heard about virtualbox having trouble with this * Switch for python 3.10 as main interpreter is work in progress, Staging:A is shaping up. Something like ~ 4 build fails left, most with fixes in the queue. No openQA run yet, so no esimate on how bad it really is. GPG Key to sign packages/repos is planned to be updated to be a 4096/RSA key (implementation schedule pending) Tracker bug : https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1199184 OBS seems to have some hard time finding workers for ceph and kernel builds: very frequently, staging projects are blocked by waiting for the 4 same packages still being scheduled (ceph, kernel-default, kernel-vanilla, kernel-debug) (constraints limit to 18 (ceph) resp 24 (kernels) workers) amd pstate? https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/trznty/thank_you_amd_i_love_the_new_am... (let me find the opensuse related article) https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/uujs5i/how_to_switch_to_amdpstate... rmmod acpi_cpufreq modprobe amd_pstate shared_mem=1 cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver ## Richard (Kubic/MicroOS) Winding down the Kubic project. New package maintainer for kubernetes in openSUSE found, announcement to the Kubic lists coming today. TL;DR version - kubernetes will still be packaged for Tumbleweed, may still be tested, but will no longer have seperate installation media, patterns, etc. Users therefore should not expect the same level of support as previously, but it should still work (maybe with a little extra work required to install/update) and recieve timely updates. Fate of devel:kubic:containers and what will end up where TBD lkocman: let's get jiri a headsup about esuring that we use MicroOS/Factory as the upstream and not kubic MicroOS Desktop abandoning use of packagekit/pkcon/tukit installation methods due to lack of maintenance/bug fixes, expect an update to revert to using transactional-update by default. +1 to make this clearer lkocman: New description for get-o-o, self-install images are now on the main download page (same as Leap Micro). What about generic VM images and lots of HW specific images? ## Max Leap Micro * Publish GA (iprq for Leap 15.4 "GM" is still pending) Leap 15.4 * Continue the RC work * Fixing installcheck problem according to the repodata from the latest build * python3-numpy conflicts to python-numpy upgrade issue was fixed * Raspberry Pi USB Boot problems * We could track it as a known issue in RN (Otherwise it's already listed in Raspberry PI HCL section on wiki) * Candidate for 15.4 QU1 respin is ^ as well as the wlan0 issue https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1186677 * The remaining build fails: minikube(will be deleted soon) and python- certbot Please note that some additional package version bumps are required to upgrade py-crypto! Currently blocked on PM. Stefan W. wants to have this as ECO update. Axel: I think you'll have to update 4-5 packages. Dirk: I'm not aware of any additional packages needed to update cryptography. python-packaging python-setuptools python-setuptools_scm python-setuptools-rust python-pyOpenSSL python-cryptography Marcus does not recommend forking package in Leap as there are other SLE python modules that will depend on it. Santiago mentioned that he'll have more free cycles for Leap/openQA this week. I'll reach out to him regarding focus on the migration scenarios. ## Guillaume - Arm Tumbleweed: * llvm9 has been dropped from Factory, but ghc-bootstrap still requires it for aarch64 and armv6/7: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199897 * edk2* and arm-trsuted-firmware* now build with gcc12 Leap 15.4: * aarch64: * Net ISO needs a workaround on Raspberry Pi 4: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1198992 Lubos: Would you prefer to have this in RN on the install media, or is the wiki and online release-notes sufficient? Guillaume: online + wiki should be sufficient. * armv7: * Enlightenment package still fails in rpmlint check (missing whitelist?): https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1194047 lkocman: will reach out to simotek and Wolfgang Leap Micro 5.2: No Updates this week * Default-SelfInstall image is now available for aarch64. But there are till some issues in openQA: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/110845 (works locally) lkocman to check if we could remove the firefox tests from the 42.X/15.0 upgrade test suite. It doesn't seem to happen outside of that (same for TW). lkocman will try to look into this ## Sarah - s390x s390x acceptance letter is still pending Not available SUSE has shutdown 3 LPARs because of performance issues Issue has been also reported to the CTO for ZSystems of IBM Tumbleweed: * Is rolling openSUSE Leap Beta: * no issues at the moment * maven issues are existing -> discussions about upgrading the Java version or how to fix it lkocman: slightly related topic, should we perhaps re-consider recommended memory amount in Release Notes? I think we still recommend something like 2G minimal / 4G or 8G optimal. * KDE for s390x adopted ## Doug * TSP * Evaluation of proposed financial options didn't provide a path forward * Next update likely in mid-June * Community events * First Community Work Group provided a good starting point * https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20220524 * Workgroups will temporarily replace the Tueday traditional meeting * oSC22 * Picking up video equipment on Friday * T-shirts will be delivered on Friday or Monday * Speakers communication channel for event in place * More ALP Talk? * OSCAL oSC22 * Schedule complete. * GSoC * openSUSE has 5 mentees * Filled in org form https://twitter.com/opensusementors/status/1094897665593217025 is bit confusing (last update from 2019) should try to get access to the Twitter account ## Dirk Not available * io_uring hang is identified and fix is prepared, still discussing when it will enter SP4 * fixed a couple of issues for python 3.10 switch and fallout from gcc 12 rebuild ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling Scott: lack of policy checking into Backports submission https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1199841 Document the process for 15.5 and also ALP (once related). Max: compared to the Leap before CtLG, orgin manager(formerly leaper) replacement is missing opensuse-reviews are still happening for Leap 15.4 top level project (but this project lacks other staging reviews) Backports has most of reviews implemented, but is missing the opensuse- reviews involved via origin-manager or leaper. Dominique: please do not just enable opensuse-reviewer for all of the reviews, it's pretty much just me. We need to find resources first. Scott: the original idea was let's just inherit from Factory, we assume that it's already there. If it happens to deviate from factory, then backport-reviewers would have a look. Perhaps we need to document and "follow the policy" even more. Max: this is problematic as we're receveing a lot of Leap and/or Backports specific fixes. Looking into a issue where mirror admins reported growing size of Leap / Backports. Adrian and Wolfgang are looking into that. Adrian: addition of mirroring of SP4:GA, for some days some architectures were behind and we've had doubled amount of noarch packages. It's expected behavior. Project will be frozen soon. Marcus: Did we do version updates for 15.4 from Factory. We did that in around Alpha phase. Marcus: some of the SP3:Updates were not picked up by Package HUB - SP4. Dirk: I also noticed some overriden versions from SP3. Lubos will check with Wolfgang on this one. Marcus did not see the usual review requests. Max we will need to either revive factory source checker or leaper checker ## Maintenance team (Marina or Marcus, Maurizio (m4u)) 15.4 Update openQA was setup this week Staff is moving as usual. Stuff? or is the staff physically moving to new SUSE building? ;-) - Marcus: 15.4 is set up channel wise, updates will go in testing occasionaly, if you need more ping me, no openqa setup yet lkocman: could you please help me with cleanup of maintenance tasks in https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/opensuse-leap-15-4/issues/gantt lkocman: will contact Jan Stehlik. Santi (PO for the topic) mentioned he'll work on it. lkocman: messaged Jan Jan confirmed with me that they're on it. lkocman: (still pending) will open a release notes entry for a change Security Advisory identification TODO Marcus: could you give me example of old and new values? - Marina and Maurizio: SLE-PackageHub overlaps (https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issues/71) work in progress following the initial list of overlapping packages (https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/106610#note-3). More incidents are under QA. Work is going on and under control (and tracked internally as jsc#MSC-303). Already released: (AH PERFECT!) SUSE:Maintenance:22929:265929 (babl libbabl-0_1-0 typelib-1_0-Babl-0_1) SUSE:Maintenance:23000:266006 (MozillaThunderbird enigmail) SUSE:Maintenance:23009:266004 (freerdp freerdp-devel freerdp-proxy libfreerdp2 libgsm) -> libgsm1 was missing in PH making freerdp not installable SUSE:Maintenance:22928:266007 (argyllcms csync libcsync0 libcsync- plugin-sftp libcsync-plugin-smb) SUSE:Maintenance:23015:267052 (gfbgraph-devel libgfbgraph-0_2-0 typelib-1_0-GFBGraph-0_2 librest gcr) -> librest, gcr and libgoa are needed too for making gfbgraph installable SUSE:Maintenance:23334:268316 (gutenprint gutenprint-devel) SUSE:Maintenance:23486:268867 (hp-drive-guard, upower) --> needs libupower-glib3 SUSE:Maintenance:23487:268897 (liba52-0 liba52-devel) SUSE:Maintenance:23506:268899 (libdvdread4 libdvdread-devel) Lubos will ping m4u about updating the list (m4u: the list gets updated on jsc#MSC-303, let me know if you cannot access, I will update it later today and ping Lubos when done) Lubos will check updates in jira Meet product security at the openSUSE Conference. There are about 3 talks on the maintenance and security topics. Come and say Hello! DimStar: there is currently a pending crypto / gnutls related submission. ## Adrian - OBS No update