All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting The meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Attendees anag, Sarah, DimStar, Richard, lkocman,GuillaumeG, wengel, bmwiedemann,maxlin, Marcus ## Leap legaldb queue for Leap 15.6 is finally clean. I did many license corrections but at some point I started to simply fastrack requests, unless legaldb threw a warning. libwebkit2gtk issue still visible in latest published Alpha, we should release new snapshot with the fix asap. Improvements on Leap Micro 5.5 openqa runs, unfortunatelly post- failures in transactional-update make it mostly red. Feature evaluation https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issues - resynced jiras after duplicates https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/136 - discussion with gcc maintainer about /usr/bin/gcc99 and similar (Fedora/Slackware does it) Discussion with Yi Fan regarding Audacity 3.X enablement https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/135 (further dependencies added) Simon received maintainer permissions for openSUSE:Leap:16.0 NVIDIA repo availability for 15.6 this week. ## openSUSE Tumbleweed (anag) openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 76 failed 1 unresolvable (last week: 77 failed, 5 unresolvable) https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz Shanav Tovah! The new year in the Hebrew calendar broke a test in icu related to the new year being a leap year. This blocked the chekin since Monday. A checkin is planned today early with : * gnome 45 * postgresql 16 (new default version) * pipewire 0.3.80 * chromium (both regular ungoogled one) 117 with a bunch of security updates Updates waiting in staging: * boost 1.83.0 (waiting for fixes in libzyp) * fmt 10 advancing, now we have fmt-9 package separately, waiting update mariadb boo#1213219, ceph boo#1213217 (fixed). * aeon branding, installer, patterns, etc ;) ## Richard (Aeon) Presented Aeon at All Systems Go last week - talk went very well, recordings have more views than the keynotes Lots of inspiration for using systemd-boot, systemd-repart, systemd-cryptenroll and producing trusted-boot compatible images out of the box Still an open question as to whether we'll work on systemd-homed or else bail out and declare Aeon a single user OS Lots of stuff stuck in Staging J, currently waiting on the new rpmlint that allows Aeon's new sudo/polkit approach devel:microos:aeon:images experiments with systemd-boot ## Bernhard (Slowroll) Bernhard continued scripting https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Slowroll Dominique: use branch instead of copypac then you'll not have issues with release counters TODO list: openQA, frozen project link, etc Slowly moving forward Voting for the new name, so far we have a lot of proposals. Starting with one flavor, more to come. ## Max Leap 15.6 * More build fixes and package updates has been merged * A bit struggling with the updated protobuf-c in SLE, bsc#1214006, perhaps we should set Substitutes: protobuf-c libprotobuf-c-devel on SLE15-SP2-Update project, or we adjust all affecting packages * Patched skelcd-openSUSE and skelcd-control-openSUSE for adopt the package to 15.6 ## Guillaume - Arm Tumbleweed: * Snapshots still blocked due to multiple bugs * WIP to get Tumbleweed to run on Lenovo X13s: random issues with USB and kernel 6.5.3 * shim currently not signed by Microsoft for aarch64 (Tumbleweed only, Leap is fine). Stalled - https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1211297 Leap: * 15.5: port for armv7: containers are currently not building/created. Dirk mentioned that driver in 15.4 was the k3s team. ALP: * shim not signed by MS (at least for aarch64, not sure for x86_64) - jsc#ARM-100 WSL: * Works with x86 emulator since appx installer is x86-64, but this is not really an issue since arm64 Win11 includes x86 emulator by default. Team is ok to publish it on Microsoft store anyway, but this would require some testing in openQA which is now possible (WSL1 and WSL2) thanks to Fabian https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/126083. Steps documented on the wiki to install the appx from download.o.o: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:WSL#With_Appx_from_openSUSE_download_server lkocman: I will inform WSL team ## Sarah - s390x Tumbleweed * Releases are running again -> data center move required together with old mainframe. Data center move has been executed, but there are issues Sarah's question: Is that the reason for disabling Backports for s390x? Max: the reason is we're lack of s390x build power at this moment On top of this topic with low build power: IBM is doing marketing for our OBS for zSystems (for all Linux distributions) for s390x via the Open Mainframe Project: https://openmainframeproject.org/news/developer-resources-for-linux-on-s390x... -> Requesting additional mainframes? Leap: * sshfs is failing because no package availabe (s390x disabled for building for Leap/Backports) Package news: * cmsfs was failing because of old kernel support -> updated statement by the Upstream Maintainer: History: back in the Linux 2.2 days, the CMSFS package included a filesystem driver. The details varied depending on what release of the kernel you were building against. But the FS driver fell out because the author could not keep up with changes to kernel VFS. Eventually IBM wrote a CMS filesystem driver, so the driver function in this package became less needed and all of that logic fell into disrepair. Forwarded to Linux Distributions Working Group -> Feedback by Fedora: the cmsfs-fuse tool/driver provided by s390-tools project is replacing the functionality provided by the cmsfs project's tools Feedback by Ihno: cmsfs should not be replaced directly, because introduced by Mark Post News after IBM TechXChange: VP Ecosystems of IBM had a small feedback discussion with myself (together with Mike (SUSE) and Elizabeth (Head of Open Source Program Office for zSystems) -> Nobody has known, that no developer resources for Power exist for Open Source Developers (equal to the LinuxONE OSS Community Cloud) and it is more difficult to receive fixes for Power. The VP wants to improve and introduce the same there. lkocman: our project suffers from lack of human-resources focusing on ppc64le too (so far only Dominique from rel-eng perspective). Am I correct DimStar? It might happen that we won't have ppc64le for Leap 15 replacement etc. dimstar: currently the biggest issue for ppc64le is no working openQA setup - stuck on dtc migration afaiu Hint for Douglas because of the Geeko Foundation activity: Reach out to Peter Czanik. He is an IBM Power Champion with IBM connections. ## Doug * Workshop done in Algeria - https://cutt.us/Q6ycc * Moderation training updated - https://en.opensuse.org/Moderation * Use cases survey lkocman: relation to end of the year survey? Doug: It's bit different. * openSUSE.Asia Summit * funds arrived * Registrations 32, Submissions 31 * Processing more TSP requests * Storage decision made, just need a vacancy * GSoC * Two extentions due next week (Due By -Oct. 2 by 18:00 UTC) * Will send mentees an item if I get their address * FOSDEM (Feb. 3 & 4) * Stand submissions open * Had to file a bug since it's saying we already submitted a proposal. * oSC24 dates June 27 to 29 reserved (Thursday - Saturday) Static * AI topics (static) * Nothing new FOSDEM: stand submissions are open, we did submit ours. But seems like there is a bug in the system. lkocman: Devconf mini 2023 (fall) is not happening. ## Dirk Not available ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling no news ## Maintenance team (Marcus or Maurizio (m4u)) Leap 15.4 / 15.5 users and openqa massively hit by libwebkit2gtk issue (visible e.g. in evolution) recent libwebkit2gtk update did not fix all of the issues. We wait for QA currently. https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1213858 Security issue in libwebp package, this library is included in Chrome and Firefox. Was shipped everywhere, still finding embedded copies of libwebp in various other software like rust crates. Leap 15.4 is working Leap Micro 5.3 is working Leap Micro 5.4 testing is now passing as well blocked on Leap Micro 5.5 channel setup (SLEM channels need to be created first) Leap 16.0 - we should revisit the update/sle repo as the current setup not exactly mirror friendly. Solutions could be dropping not so popular architectures or split repositories per architecture. ## Adrian - OBS "Virtual" server room migration to PRG seemed to work well. Only some minor issues remains. Slowroll having issue with binary packages that were not published for Factory. Could we perhaps handle them through a separate product? Dimstar: maybe there is no longer reason to skip them from publishing. ## Open Floor