On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de> wrote:
Reading Felix-Nicolai's blog post, I'd like to get your input on the following statement from him:
What is the link where this blog came from?
I believe that openSUSE is supposed to be a community based and community driven product. While many devs work for Novell and do great work, openSUSE does also depend on its many users. So they should get a hear. It is not OK to only raise this issue on a factory mailinglist - a mailinglist a regular user will never see.
* factory was setup as list for future development of the openSUSE distribution. Why is that not working? Where would you expect to have general discussion about the direction of the distribution?
I think that the users should probably have been asked on the regular mailing list as well, but probably more in a way of what the expect and what the want and need as well. Some of us haven't been so much against KDE4, but against the "Beta" state of a lot of it. While it works well for some, it's not been so good for others. Further, it might be a good idea to find out how many regular users are using KDE4 and how many have actually updated to the KDE 4.1 update from the build service.
* openSUSE is community based and community driven - but we have Novell engineers doing engineering work with limited time and resources. Community means not only discussion but also contribution - and I've heard many requests about KDE3 and KDE4 but so far only saw Carlos stepping up and saying "KDE3 is so important for me that I create a KDE3 LiveCD for openSUSE 11.0".
Ability is part of the problem for many of us. I don't program, so I try to beta test. Time is another part of it. We probably all have full time jobs and families as well, which leaves us less time to do as much as we would like. I know that's the case in my situation.
It's good to get input and help with prioritization but how can we get more people working on KDE to maintain KDE3 and to improve KDE4?
That depends on what is needed. I'm more than willing to test. While my initial experience wasn't the best, I am going to install KDE4 on my laptop today and update it to 4.1 and see if it's any better. Also, try to keep in mind that some of us do use older machines and don't have newer 3d cards and Gig+ of RAM on all of our machines. 11.0 was a major improvement over 10.3, especially in terms of package management speed. I've been using it full time since Beta2 and have been very please with it. I've supported SuSE since v5.3 and hope to continue to support it in the future. Thanx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org