On Wed 29. Oct - 14:16:36, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 13:27 +0100, Holger Macht wrote:
But if the user does not expect the system to shutdown he will not change any settings and might be very annoyed the first time that happens. So it should at least be mentionned in the release notes or, even better, be switched off for openSuse, just as suggested in the bug report.
Of course it should be mentioned in the release notes. So if, hypothetically, the decision is to keep this setting, I will care about having a corresponding section in the release notes.
A user that is not the admin of the (home) machine will not have read the release notes. If you keep that setting it must be announced to each user.
Plus, the user might be a KDE user, which one days switches to gnome to try it. Bingo! Lost data.
Lost data must not happen. Concrete example?
I also doubt that apache, gcc/make or $favoriteP2Pclient are capable of telling Gnome to leave the computer running. Even if a application can do that, can a KDE application tell Gnome, can a Gnome application tell KDE to not shut down the system?
As Vincent already mentioned, gnome-power-manager has a D-Bus interface to inhibit a suspend, kpowersave doesn't.
Actually it's a question about for whom is openSUSE designed for. If you have the "common desktop user" as a target group, you could assume that he just uses the default desktop applications. And all those could trigger a suspend inhibition. If they don't, and it makes sense, it's a bug.
Is a samba share to another computer considered a default app by you? NFS? Imap? They are used on homes.
You are wrong, all applications shipped by openSUSE/ SuSE/ Novell/ buildservice should be compliant. You can not force us to only use "gnome" apps.
It should not hurt, really, every application should be able to properly recover from a system sleep. Yes, a lot works needs to be done, but it has to be done. Regards, Holger -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org