All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting The meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Attendees lkocman, ddemaio, anag, DimStar,GuillaumeG,wengel ## Leap libwebkit2gtk issue is in the maintenance section at the bottom As part of the ongoing Leap 15.6 legal review effort: Transitioned https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE_talk:Accepted_licences into official space https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE_talk:Accepted_licences Not sure if https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/14AdaJ6cmU0kvQ4ulq9pWpjdZL5tkR03e... should not be turned into a wiki page instead. Ongoing: Open Call for individual maintainers, QA and Engineering team leads for collaboration on the manual test plan for 15.6 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AGKijKpKiJCB616-bHVoNQuhWHpQLHPWCb3m... The Beta testing will begin in Feb, so we have plenty of time to polish the document. Feature evaluation https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issues Discussion with Yi Fan regarding Audacity 3.X enablement https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/135 Leap Micro 5.5 Alpha was made available on get-o-o last week. We expect to followup with Beta. Further openQA cleanup needed. ## openSUSE Tumbleweed (anag) openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 77 failed 5 unresolvable (last week: 58 failed, 112 unresolvable) https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz The unresolvable packages were due to the ongoing rename of maven- bundle-plugin, now solved Cadence of snapshots is regular again. Noteworthy updates: * kernel 6.5.2 * systemd 254.3 * Mozilla Thundebird 115.2.0 Updates coming / * boost 1.83.0 * fmt 10 advancing, now we have fmt-9 package separately, waiting update mariadb boo#1213219, ceph boo#1213217 (fixed). * A lot of update in java packages to help with the reproducible builds effort. * plasma was updated and now KDE workspace and apps are following. ## Richard (Aeon) Has been battling with Aeon image builds in devel:microos:aeon and devel:microos:aeon:images Problems have included apparent breakage of SelfInstall images, and lots of OBS publishing issues (most likely caused by current storage issues) Experiments with systemd-boot showed great promise, will be revisited systemd-zram support implimented automatic distrobox updates implimented systemd-homed another shoot to try to implement this later today rootless setup WIP Experiments with alternate installation tooling (calamares?) is a likely future plan ## Richard (ALP Architecture) Results have been published https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/K... and discussion on Reddit too As a result of the poll, and the clear difference in community wishes from SUSE's company direction, Richard will no longer be spending any work time on the Leap Replacement topic. Instead Richard will be spending more work time on Aeon and ALP 1:1 copies of SUSE's ALP products ## Bernhard (Slowroll) Bernhard continued scripting https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Slowroll Dominique: use branch instead of copypac then you'll not have issues with release counters ## Max Leap Micro * Always faling while sync Leap Micro DVD to o3 at the rsync_iso stage, there are a lot of bsdtar erros, after an investigation and talked to Andrii, it was blocked by apparmor, Andrii changed apparmor permission, should be fixed, verified with build35.1 at least Leap 15.6 * build fail stats in SP6 Backports(x86_64): 36 failed 33 unresolvable * pending requests: 387 * Re-enabled s390x build in SP6 Backports, we seem not to blocked by s390x building resource anymore * Blocked python310 packages from the medium, they were add to the medium for some reason(typelib-1_0-Gtk-4_0 and typelib-1_0-Gtk-3_0 are suspicious) but they're end up to be orphan package on the system afterwards * Forked libindi because of reanmed (lib)cfitsio-devel, and we can not take Factory's version due to the dependencies can not fulfilled * Preparing for a meta package updates ## Guillaume - Arm Tumbleweed: * Snapshot 20230911 blocked due to multiple bugs * WIP to get Tumbleweed to run on Lenovo X13s * shim currently not signed by Microsoft for aarch64 (Tumbleweed only, Leap is fine). Stalled - https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1211297 Leap: * 15.5: port for armv7: containers are currently not building/created. Dirk mentioned that driver in 15.4 was the k3s team. ALP: * shim not signed by MS (at least for aarch64, not sure for x86_64) - jsc#ARM-100 WSL: * Works with x86 emulator since appx installer is x86-64, but this is not really an issue since arm64 Win11 includes x86 emulator by default. Team is ok to publish it on Microsoft store anyway, but this would require some testing in openQA which is now possible (WSL1 and WSL2) thanks to Fabian https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/126083. Steps documented on the wiki to install the appx from download.o.o: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:WSL#With_Appx_from_openSUSE_download_server lkocman: I will inform WSL team ## Sarah - s390x Not available Tumbleweed * Releases are running again -> data center move required together with old mainframe. Data center move has been executed, but there are issues Sarah's question: Is that the reason for disabling Backports for s390x? Max: the reason is we're lack of s390x build power at this moment Wolfgang: the date of the final move is unfortunatelly not fixed yet. Physical installation issues such as network installation, and IBS/OBS setup in PRG. Definitely not before August. Leap: * sshfs is failing because no package availabe (s390x disabled for building for Leap/Backports) Package news: * cmsfs was failing because of old kernel support -> updated statement by the Upstream Maintainer: History: back in the Linux 2.2 days, the CMSFS package included a filesystem driver. The details varied depending on what release of the kernel you were building against. But the FS driver fell out because the author could not keep up with changes to kernel VFS. Eventually IBM wrote a CMS filesystem driver, so the driver function in this package became less needed and all of that logic fell into disrepair. Forwarded to Linux Distributions Working Group -> Feedback by Fedora: the cmsfs-fuse tool/driver provided by s390-tools project is replacing the functionality provided by the cmsfs project's tools ## Doug * slowroll * Gaining a lot of media attention * Community meeting took four names to consider renaming slowroll (put for a vote) * https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20230912 * KDE Patron going through * Budget * Looking at sponosring next FY events * Geeko Foundation proposal with board lkocman: any chance for Geeko Foundation sponsoring this FY events? 1000 USD or 18k CZK * openSUSE.Asia Summit * Checking on funds transfer * Registrations 31, Submissions 31 * Processing multiple TSP requests * Having discussion today on next steps for Storage (awaiting decision) * GSoC * Two extentions due Oct. 2 by 18:00 UTC * Will send mentees an item if I get their address * Need to ship stickers for event at google * FOSDEM (Feb. 3 & 4) * Stand submissions still not open yet * Discussing including Rancher w/booth lkocman: I feel we would have to sacrifice e.g. collab with GNU Health, if we would fit one more project to our booth. * oSC24 dates likely June 27 to 29 Static * AI topics (static) * Nothing new ## Dirk Not available ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling no news ## Maintenance team (Marcus or Maurizio (m4u)) Leap 15.4 / 15.5 users massively hit by libwebkit2gtk issue (visible e.g. in evolution) recent libwebkit2gtk update did not fix all of the issues. We wait for GNOME team to release a next update soon. https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1213858 Security issue in libwebp package, this library is included in Chrome and Firefox. libzypp update in 15.5 was fixed by releasing missing dependency. libzypp issue that can be properly addressed only with respin of DVD. See section above for more details. openQA is OK currently. (snapper was fixed) Some 15.5 updates from between freeze and GA need to be released, WIP for Marcus Leap 15.4 is working Leap Micro 5.3 is working Leap Micro 5.4 testing is now passing as well Leap 16.0 - we should revisit the update/sle repo as the current setup not exactly mirror friendly. Solutions could be dropping not so popular architectures or split repositories per architecture. ## Adrian - OBS Not availalbe "Virtual" server room migration to PRG seemed to work well. Only some minor issues remains. ## Open Floor