Hi Robert, On Saturday 09 August 2014 06:09:14 Robert Schweikert wrote:
Also as fellow user and contributor I have to say that continued and constant systemd bashing is not conducive to moving the distribution forward and making the openSUSE project a great project to participate in. Quiet frankly I am getting tired of it.
I fully agree with you that this bashing on systemd is counter productive, however I guess we should also see if from a different point. openSUSE is a community driven distribution, but as far as I remember the community itself never took the decision to switch to systemd. This was mainly driven by the maintainers of the core-system, which are part of SUSE. And this might be the biggest issue and the cause for the systemd bashing by the community. One of the items mentioned on that website is that more and more programs are starting to have dependencies on systemd and that distro's have to make the switch to the systemd world. Whether they like it or not. Debian discussed this with its community and based on the feedback it took a decision. As indicated I can't remember to have seen any discussion or questionnaire within the openSUSE community regarding the successor of the sysvinit environment. Of course we can sweep it under the umbrello of "those that do the work decide". But then those have also be prepared for the subsequent discussions that their decision could cause. But it is indeed too late to revert back as that we are already depend too much on systemd and it would create a lot of havoc if we would remove it now. However I don't think that this should close the door for alternatives. As David indicated that he has been contributing a lot in the last years, maybe he is willing to work on the integration of a systemd alternative. Just my five cents. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org